tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-42116229962519379402024-03-17T00:21:22.183-07:00Yes, Another Science BlogAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-18198624219138812772019-03-06T12:54:00.003-08:002019-03-06T12:54:28.186-08:00Please photograph and tweet this poster<span style="background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms", trebuchet, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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<a href="http://stemcellassays.com/2014/06/discussion-tweeting-unpublished-data-conference/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Fascinating discussion</a> of photographing, tweeting, and generally sharing results at conference presentations.</div>
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Apparently, the International Society of Stem Cell Research (ISSCR) prohibits photo-taking of posters and talks, as do most other societies. Moreover, they tried to suggest a policy for Tweeting - "okay for general findings but not for pics or data."</div>
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Live tweeting of general findings at <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/isscr2014?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">isscr2014</span></a> is encouraged! Please respect our presenters by not sharing specific data or pictures.</div>
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I find it strange that someone can share with an audience of 3,000 at a conference, but be disrespected by an excited tweet of his or her results. Couldn't the people seeing it on Twitter also be in the audience? Or does the presenter tailor their message depending on the full list of attendees?</div>
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I don't need to discuss this any more here because <a href="http://celltrials.info/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Alexey Bersenev</a> did a terrific job on his blog. Go read his article!</div>
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The only thing I will add is that I am convinced people overestimate the threat of being scooped. Does it happen? Of course! Does it happen because you presented at a conference? Probably not (at least in molecular biology). We scoop each other inadvertently. Lots of researchers, studying questions of the day, with the tools/techniques available that day. Of course, just by chance, many will do the same thing. If anything, I am sure presenting, talking, and sharing as much as possible can only reduce the chance of being scooped. You are more likely to learn of others doing this and collaborate. You are more likely to inhibit others from doing this, just because they know you have been working on it for a year now. And even if 5% of the time talking about your work leads to being scooped, but 70% it prevents scooping, as scientists, we should be able to determine which makes more sense.</div>
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Another beautiful PhDComic called "What you think of your Professor vs. Time". It reminds me of <a href="http://mcb.berkeley.edu/labs/rine/index.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Jasper Rine's</a> joking metric for when a student is ready to graduate, "It's not about a complete story or number of papers, but, 'You are ready when you realize that you are way smarter than your PI.' "</div>
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I remember complaining in my third or fourth year, "Graduate school is like the army in that it destroys your self-confidence in the beginning. But whereas the military immediately builds you back up, grad. school just leaves you disassembled." Well, it turns out that graduate training does restore your self-confidence. It just takes a very long time. The act of publishing is a huge boost, but it usually comes towards the end of the graduate tenure.</div>
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If only you could remain confident. Alas, this exercise repeats somewhat as you jump from the 6th-year high into a postdoc with new techniques, organism, and literature. Suddenly, after all that time of becoming an expert scientist in your PhD, you are an uncertain and anxious postdoc, way too soon.</div>
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The comic inspired me to make my personal self-confidence chart.</div>
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Barely a day goes by when I don't see a mention or active discussion of abusive PIs on Twitter. This isn't surprising. I've personally heard countless horror stories about dysfunctional labs. Sometimes people are lucky to get out. Sometimes they suffer for years and tolerate the abuse. Often, they leave academia. Given how common these stories are among the people we know, if you follow 300 or more scientists on Twitter, your feed will be full of them. Here are just a few snippets from conversations I noticed in the past few days.</div>
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Academia has a particular problem when it comes to mentoring young scientists. As I've <a href="http://blog.pubchase.com/academic-assessment-nature-versus-nurture/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">written before</a>, we don't hire based on mentoring talent, we don't train faculty how to manage labs, and we don't reward good advisors when it comes to grants and tenure. This is a disastrous setup that results in mostly mediocre mentors, lots of terrible ones, and by chance, only some who are terrific.</div>
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The other problem is that scientists often pick labs without paying enough attention to the mentoring quality of the PI. Postdocs get a one-day visit, with virtually no ability to assess in that day what their relationship with the future advisor would be like. Not all students rotate and can evaluate the personal fit with the professor and avoid the terrorizing ones. And even entering students who do rotate frequently underestimate just how essential a good mentor is to a successful career. </div>
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In my second year, I asked my advisor Jasper Rine why students some times knowingly join labs where the PI is a clear nut case. Jasper shrugged. I then asked, <strong>"For how long does your graduate advisor matter?" Jasper replied, <span style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">"For your entire academic career."</span></strong> I can't emphasize this enough. Getting a good postdoc, recommendations for fellowships, and everything that follows - you can do all of this without a great advisor, but it's so much harder.</div>
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Of all the decisions we make in the decade or more of our training, picking the graduate/postdoc advisor may be the single most important decision that influences whether or not you enjoy your next six years, whether or not you finish the PhD, and whether or not you end up in the job that you love.</div>
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Here is a fantastic guide from Professor Barres, aptly called "<a href="http://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(13)00907-0" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">How to Pick a Graduate Advisor</a>".</div>
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I like this and find this a fascinating topic (and one I've been thinking about from the flip side for quite a while as I start to build my lab). My only suggestion is that it may be worthwhile to note how extremely personal this decision is. One can have a bad relationship with a mentor simply because personalities don't jive. I'm sure if you were to visit any successful lab, you would find a wide-range of responses to the question "Are you satisfied with the PIs mentoring ability?" And that is a much more nuanced context to navigate in a limited time frame than if the PI is simply a jerk with a bad reputation.</div>
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Great post! On a really important topic. For me, the single best advice on this topic (actually applies everywhere) is that it’s much less important what you do than who you do it with. Somehow, I’ve seen so many students who simply don’t follow this advice. I just don’t know why. The funny thing is that all the guidance services for incoming students explicitly give them this same advice, and students choose to ignore it, often to work on the “hot new topic”, or to work with on the topic that they felt they really wanted to study. I have seen the latter several times even just recently. One even said “I know you told me that, and I ignored it. I wish I hadn’t.” Perhaps it’s just the natural folly of youth. So in some sense, one of the primary enablers of the monster PIs are the students themselves! Postdocs are a whole other ball of wax for the reasons you mention.<br />One other point is that mentors can become worse over time (or, I suppose, better, although I think that’s less common). As other demands for time and the number of trainees increase, then I think a good mentor can just get overwhelmed and end up bad. For this reason, I’m honestly not sure why any student would work for anyone other than a junior faculty member. Yes, blatantly self-serving… :)<br />I think that bad mentorship does get punished, although perhaps not as badly as it ought to. Amongst junior faculty, the ones with dysfunctional labs are much more likely to be denied tenure–I’ve seen it. At the senior level, you end up with an unmotivated group that tends to not publish as much. I think that this is a place to apply pressure: if granting agencies kept track of papers/dollar and average number of papers per group member, it would be a way to make sure that PIs are taking care of all their people. An imperfect way to do it, but better than nothing. Overall, the thing is that being a bad mentor leads to lower productivity, and that’s bad for everyone, including the PI. There are counterexamples, but I believe this to be generally true.<br />I also think the mentor/mentored relationship is quite complex, and even with good intentions on both sides, there can be the perception of conflict of interest.<a href="http://rajlaboratory.blogspot.com/2014/06/is-my-pi-out-to-get-me.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Here are</a> some thoughts I had.<br />Although I was not writing about the bad monster PIs, and they are definitely out there.</div>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-32837393028143536092019-03-06T12:50:00.001-08:002019-03-06T12:50:16.204-08:00The secret to academic success - work LESS<span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "trebuchet" , "verdana" , sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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We have a mostly self-induced workaholic culture in academia, and I am convinced that it is severely damaging to research and researchers. Normal working hours and time off aren't just okay - they are important for productivity.</div>
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Throughout much of my graduate training, I was consistently troubled by the workaholic students, postdocs, and professors. They made me question my own commitment and fit into academia, considering that I liked to take off weekends, spend evenings with my wife, go out with non-scientist friends, and take vacations and travel. Now I know that the time off didn't hurt me -- it made me more productive and creative; it helped me to finish my PhD.</div>
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I am convinced working less helps you to achieve more. I had some of my best ideas on hikes or vacations., and there is plenty of research that shows declining productivity beyond a 40-hour work week. The Salon article "<a href="http://www.salon.com/2012/03/14/bring_back_the_40_hour_work_week/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Bring back the 40-hour work week</a>" should be required reading for academics. </div>
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I also recommend great posts "<a href="http://dynamicecology.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/you-do-not-need-to-work-80-hours-a-week-to-succeed-in-academia/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">You do not need to work 80 hours a week to succeed in academia</a>" and "<a href="http://babyattachmode.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/why-it-annoys-me-if-people-say-academics-should-work-hard/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Why it annoys me if people say academics should work hard</a>". And here is <a href="http://babyattachmode.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/why-it-annoys-me-if-people-say-academics-should-work-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-946" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">my comment</a> on the latter post:</div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">This is a topic that has bothered me for almost a decade now. It doesn’t just annoy me when people say that to be successful in academia, you need to work insane hours. It’s BAD advice.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">I think academics, like startup founders, often work non-stop because they think that it’s required. Or because this is in their nature. But I am far from convinced that academia actually requires it. I see too many people who burn out because they don’t have good work/life balance. I know professors who are parents and don’t work evenings/weekends. I know postdocs who want to spend time with their significant other and go home at the end of the day. And these people tend to be no less productive and successful than those who never leave the lab.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">We do this because we love science. It’s not a job really. It’s a passion and the way of life. But then who is to tell us that it must come at the expense of having time off, at the expense of having family and friends, at the expense of sanity?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">On a related note, it’s not just about how many hours you work per day and whether you take off the weekend. You also need vacations and extended time away from the lab. I strongly encourage students and postdocs to travel, hike, and vacation. Do it during your graduate studies and between the PhD and postdoc! <a href="https://www.pubchase.com/career/question/how-long-can-i-take-off-and-do-something-awesome-129" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"><span style="border: 0px; color: #1c88d3; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">https://www.pubchase.com/career/question/how-long-can-i-take-off-and-do-something-awesome-129</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Lenny<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">P.S. As a fifth-year graduate student, I remember asking a senior postdoc about the fact that professors seem to work nonstop. It worried me. Her position was, “I think many of these people would work nonstop no matter what career path they chose. It’s self-induced. I care about doing non-science things. I choose to do science the way that works for me and my family. And I will ignore how much everyone works. I will do it my way, until someone tells me that it’s not enough and I can’t continue like this.”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="border: 0px; color: #262626; font-family: "times"; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">She continued like this. She became a professor at Harvard. I followed up with her when I came to Boston. She was a junior professor and nothing changed for her work/life philosophy. She did not go to lab on weekends or evenings. She is doing well. She is not the only example of this.</span></div>
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The scaling of the productivity with the time spent working depends much on the nature of the work. Routine work, such as pipetting, scales almost linearly with time up to the zombie zone while the scaling of creative/conceptual work is less clear. I personally agree that after some point, conceptual work scales inversely with the time spent working. So the type of productivity that one is aiming for should be a factor in deciding how to work and how much to work. There are labs in which a grad student or a postdoc can become a first author of a "high-impact" publication by doing a lot of busy routine work. So how much we work is perhaps a reflection in part of our values and definition of success.</div>
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Here's another couple of articles to add to the list of people who agree with working less to achieve more in academia:<a href="http://drclimate.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/holiday-guilt-and-work-life-balance/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">http://drclimate.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/holiday-guilt-and-work-life-balance/</a><a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/07/21/the-awesomest-7-year-postdoc-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-tenure-track-faculty-life/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/07/21/the-awesomest-7-year-postdoc-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-tenure-track-faculty-life/</a></div>
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Lenny, I was just thinking about the same post myself! Having been provoked to think about how much people work, I think I realized that for myself, it's not the number of hours but our internal perception of how those hours are spent that may make the most difference in quality of life:<a href="http://rajlaboratory.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-much-do-pis-work.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">http://rajlaboratory.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-much-do-pis-work.html</a></div>
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I just got invited to sign the<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sziu3iQcNleqOg2pYUDFa2xyquwkCaD1Kv1aWk0UOiI/edit" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"> letter to AAAS</a>with concerns regarding their upcoming open/anti-open access journal <span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/343/6172/709.full" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Science Advances</a></span>. There are multiple fatal flaws with this journal, as highlighted in the letter. Top among them are the wrong open access Creative Commons license and a frivolous $1500 charge for articles that exceed 10 pages. Extra fee for going over the length limit in an online journal? I wonder if Jeffrey Beall should add <span style="font-style: italic;">Science Advances </span>to his list of predatory publishers.</div>
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I didn't sign the letter because I hope that AAAS will listen and improve the policies of the new journal. In fact, I have no doubt that AAAS will proudly ignore all of the recommendations. I signed only to raise awareness of what AAAS is doing and to discourage scientists from submitting work to <span style="font-style: italic;">Science Advances</span>.</div>
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Why am I so certain that AAAS will make nothing good out of <span style="font-style: italic;">Science Advances</span>? Well, that's because they just hired <a href="http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1621" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Kent Anderson as the Publisher of Science</a>. I call Kent the Glenn Beck of science publishing. Over on his blog, he routinely makes paranoid asinine arguments about open access and any attempt to fix and improve peer review and science communication. Every time I read a post of his, I cringe and then imagine him co-hosting a show with Beck, called "How Obama will put you all in concentration camps with open access mandates."</div>
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It seems that Kent Anderson, AAAS, and <span style="font-style: italic;">Science Advances</span> are all perfectly aligned to make sure that there is no advance in science publishing and communication in their empire. That's just fine. Plenty of other innovative journals and leaders around, working hard to make AAAS irrelevant. Please <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sziu3iQcNleqOg2pYUDFa2xyquwkCaD1Kv1aWk0UOiI/edit" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">sign the letter</a> and make sure to never publish with AAAS.</div>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-305440300049719962019-03-06T12:46:00.004-08:002019-03-06T12:46:26.829-08:00Seek advice and learn to ignore it<span style="background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms", trebuchet, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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There is an excellent research article "<a href="http://francescagino.com/pdfs/brooks_gino_schweitzer_man_science_2014.pdf" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Smart People Ask for (My) Advice: Seeking Advice Boosts Perceptions of Competence</a>" on seeking advice, its benefits, why people avoid it, and the good impression asking for advice leaves in others (Scientific American post on it <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asking-advice-makes-a-good-impression/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">here</a>).</div>
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Every time I give a talk to students/postdocs in academia or budding entrepreneurs, I emphasize just how crucial seeking advice is for the research career or the success of their startup. I have written on Thespectroscope on the impact of choosing a good mentor when joining a research lab ("<a href="http://thespectroscope.com/read/read/your-mentor-can-make-or-brake-your-academic-career-by-lenny-teytelman-187" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Your mentor can make or brake your academic career</a>").</div>
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But there is a flip side to seeking advice. If you do it enough, a lot of it is going to be wrong. Learning when to trust your own expertise and instinct is as critical as finding good advisors. This is part of growing up as a scientist (as in my experience with my most important research paper "<a href="https://www.pubchase.com/essay/its-great-when-experts-disagree-by-lenny-teytelman-35" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">It’s great when experts disagree</a>."). It's part of becoming a successful entrepreneur. <strong>So, seek advice and learn which of it to ignore! </strong></div>
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I have also written recently on the <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2014/08/phd-is-perfect-for-startup.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">parallels of academia and startups</a>, and I devote a whole section there exactly to this:</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="border: 0px; font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: medium; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">When I give talks and advice on founding a startup, I think my most valuable suggestion is to get good advisors. Don’t worry, there is plenty of trial and error and you definitely will learn from your mistakes. But if you don’t get advice and try to make all the mistakes you are fated to make, instead of learning, you’ll just fail. Similarly, the role of the PI and the thesis committee and your labmates is to limit the number of mistakes you make, so that you graduate in 6 instead of 66 years. That is also why I have always stressed to students picking a graduate or postdoc lab not to underestimate the importance of a good advisor (see my recent "<a href="http://thespectroscope.com/read/read/your-mentor-can-make-or-brake-your-academic-career-by-lenny-teytelman-187" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-size: 18px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Your mentor can make or brake your academic career</a>").</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="border: 0px; font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: medium; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The second-most valuable suggestion I offer is to learn when to ignore the advice. Part of maturing as a PhD student involves becoming the expert on your thesis project. And at some point, instead of asking for guidance from your advisor, your job becomes guiding your advisor to understand and support your experiments and plans. As important as good mentors are to your success, it is equally important to learn that advisors like to advise and a <a href="https://www.pubchase.com/essay/its-great-when-experts-disagree-by-lenny-teytelman-35" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-size: 18px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">huge portion of the advice they give you is wrong</a>. At some point in your startup, you suddenly start drowning in conflicting advice from your investors, directors, advisors, friends, and users. If you listen to everything, you’ll just fail. Again, filtering this is an art that you pick up with time, and academia provides you with plenty of time and opportunity to become a master at this.</span></span></div>
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Article: <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asking-advice-makes-a-good-impression/" style="border: 0px; color: #343434; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-weight: normal; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asking-advice-makes-a-good-impression/</a></div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-25532288140012158922019-03-06T12:45:00.001-08:002019-03-06T12:45:21.797-08:00It’s not “Publish or Perish” but rather “Do Great Science”<div class="article-body-text" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; orphans: 2; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; widows: 2;">
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;">Everyone knows the destructive influence of the impact factor on academic research. This journal-citation metric is abused as a proxy for the quality of the published paper (see </span><a href="http://www.genetics.org/content/194/4/791.full" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Mark Johnston's editorial</a><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;">and</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;"> </span><a href="http://www.ascb.org/dora/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">DORA</a><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;">). However, the impact factor maintains its grip and publishing in high-impact-factor (HIF) journals is commonly seen as a requirement for getting fellowships, faculty appointments, tenure, and funding. Academics may hate the torture of submitting their work to S</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: italic;">cience, Nature, Cell</span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit;">(SNC), but most believe that it is career suicide not to chase the glam publication. Most academics are wrong about this.</span></div>
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A <a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/40118/title/Can-Publication-Records-Predict-Future-PIs-/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">recent research paper</a> showed a very tight correlation between publishing in HIF journals and getting a faculty position. This report further cemented the illusion that one’s academic career is contingent on HIF publications. It is a classic case of mistaking correlation and causation. Surprisingly, the very people lecturing undergraduates and railing against journalists about confusing correlation with causation are entirely oblivious to this mistake in the case of the impact factor.</div>
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Michael Eisen has written a whole <a href="http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=911" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">post on this</a> in 2012, arguing that it is doing amazing science that lands people faculty appointments. That same ground-breaking work gives the glossy pubs, but it’s a mistake to think that the glossy pub is the cause of the hiring decision. He often mentions that four of his postdocs got faculty positions, not just without HIF papers, but before publishing their postdoctoral research altogether. Every time Michael mentions this, the response is, “Sure, it’s because they are coming from your lab. You started PLOS, you are HHMI, you are a superstar. Wouldn’t be possible out of any other lab.” So I e-mailed a few professors last night and posted the following question on Twitter:</div>
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Just overnight, I got a list of professors who got hired before publishing their work (see the bottom of this post). Of course, all of them subsequently published the work they presented at the job talks, and most often in the HIF journals. So if you look at the correlation between SNC and their appointments, it’s very high, <strong>but it happened after they got hired</strong>.</div>
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This list shows clearly that having a <span style="font-style: italic;">Nature</span> paper is not a prerequisite for getting a faculty position. It also shows that having a <span style="font-style: italic;">Nature</span> paper in no way guarantees that you’ll become a professor – for every person below who was hired without having published yet, there were probably 50-80 applicants with SNC pubs who did not get that job.</div>
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People are often shocked when I say it’s possible to get hired even before publishing. In response to my question last night, one student replied, “Do such unicorns exist?” They do, and it shouldn’t be that surprising. As James Fraser just told me, “It’s very obvious that publications are not the key criteria at good places - opening up a new field is!”</div>
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As soon as I publish this post, there will be a stream of comments that the people below are super-stars. They are, but considering the competition today, most people who get faculty positions are super-stars. Does chasing the HIF publication help your application? Possibly, but clearly not as much as most assume. And the chase itself is often time-consuming, draining, and destructive to the science itself. In fact, it is entirely possible that over-focusing on getting into <span style="font-style: italic;">Nature</span> can actually hurt your prospects of becoming a professor. So my advice is to worry less about where you will publish the work and to focus more on the work itself.</div>
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Postdocs who got a faculty position before publishing their main postdoctoral work:</div>
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<a href="https://depace.med.harvard.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Angela DePace</a>, Harvard<br />
<a href="http://www.kosurilab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Sri Kosuri</a>, UCLA<br />
<a href="http://brainwindows.wordpress.com/about/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Andrew Hires</a>, USC<br />
<a href="http://www.rilab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Jeffrey Ross-Ibarra</a>, UC Davis<br />
<a href="http://www.genetics.wustl.edu/jflab/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Justin Fay</a>, WashU<br />
<a href="http://jura.wi.mit.edu/reddien/members.php?id=12" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Mansi Srivastava</a>, Harvard (Invited before acceptance, but paper accepted in <span style="font-style: italic;">Current Biology </span>two days before the interview<span style="font-style: italic;">)</span><br />
<a href="http://research.bme.utexas.edu/baker/about/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Aaron Baker</a>, UT Austin<br />
<a href="http://mcb.berkeley.edu/labs/rine/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Jasper Rine</a>, UC Berkeley<br />
<a href="http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/medicalschool/departments/biochemistry/Faculty/PrimaryFaculty/Pages/Johnston.aspx" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Mark Johnston</a>, U. Colorado<br />
<a href="http://winstonlab.med.harvard.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Fred Winston</a>, Harvard<br />
<a href="http://www.schoppiklab.com/location/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">David Schoppik</a>, NYU Langone<br />
<a href="http://gasch.genetics.wisc.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Audrey Gasch</a>, U. Wisconsin-Madison<br />
<a href="http://rajlab.seas.upenn.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Arjun Raj</a>, U. Penn<br />
<a href="http://macarthurlab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Daniel MacArthur</a>, MGH/Harvard<br />
<a href="http://cals.arizona.edu/research/baltruslab/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">David Baltrus</a>, U. Arizona<br />
<a href="https://sites.google.com/a/sjsu.edu/wilkinson-faculty-page/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Katie Wilkinson</a>, SJSU<br />
<a href="http://asmlab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Aaron Meyer</a>, MIT<br />
<a href="http://biomaps.rutgers.edu/khare/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Sagar Khare</a>, Rutgers<br />
<a href="http://www2.hull.ac.uk/science/gees/staff/williams.aspx" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Rebecca Williams</a>, U. of Hull<br />
<a href="http://www.salk.edu/faculty/allen.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Nicola Allen</a>, Salk (waiting for confirmation from Nicola)<br />
<a href="http://nature.berkeley.edu/rosenblum/people.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Erica Bree Rosenblum</a>, UC Berkeley (initial faculty position at U. Idaho)<br />
<a href="http://fraserlab.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">James Fraser</a>, UCSF<br />
<a href="http://www.needleman.seas.harvard.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Dan Needleman</a>, Harvard<br />
<a href="http://payseur.genetics.wisc.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Bret Payseur</a>, U. Wisconsin-Madison<a href="http://genomebio.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"><br /></a></div>
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(The above is clearly a tiny subset, biased toward my circle of genetics/genomics folks. I will continue adding names below, so please share other names or your own and e-mail lenny at zappylab dot com.)</div>
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<a href="http://research.engr.utexas.edu/brock/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Amy Brock</a>, UT Austin<br />
<a href="http://selab.janelia.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Sean Eddy</a>, HHMI Janelia<br />
<a href="http://www.epistasis.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Jason H. Moore</a>, Dartmouth<br />
<a href="http://albert.rierol.net/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Albert Cardona</a>, HHMI Janelia<br />
<a href="http://www.hhmi.org/scientists/marta-zlatic" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Marta Zlatic</a>, HHMI Janelia<br />
<a href="http://jannafierst.wordpress.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Janna Fierst</a>, U. Alabama<br />
<a href="http://www.danielpollard.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Daniel Pollard</a>, Western Washington Univ.<br />
<a href="http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Research/Laboratories/SinghLab" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Harpreet Singh</a>, Drexel Univ<br />
<a href="http://biowiki.org/bin/view/Main/HolmesLab" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Ian Holmes</a>, UC Berkeley<br />
<a href="http://thespectroscope.com/read/aboobakerlab.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Aziz Aboobaker</a>, Oxford<br />
<a href="http://genomebio.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Matt MacManes</a>, U. New Hampshire<br />
<a href="http://bradleybiology.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Robert Bradley</a>, U. Washington/Fred Hutch<br />
<a href="http://math.berkeley.edu/~lpachter/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Lior Pachter</a>, UC Berkeley<br />
<a href="http://gcbias.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Graham Coop</a> UC Davis<br />
<a href="http://blekhmanlab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Ran Blekhman</a>, U. Minnesota<br />
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/mwilsonsayres/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Melissa Wilson Sayres</a>, Arizona State Univ.</div>
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(New names, added January 2018)</div>
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<a href="http://wolberger.med.jhmi.edu/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Cynthia Wolberger</a>, Johns Hopkins<br />
<a href="https://www.mskcc.org/research-areas/labs/scott-keeney" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Scott Keeney</a>, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center<br />
<a href="https://www.komeililab.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Arash Komeili</a>, UC Berkeley<br />
<a href="http://www.mpi-dortmund.mpg.de/research-groups/bieling" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Peter Bieling</a>, Max Planck</div>
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Sorry not a well put togehter argument. These people still have had to pruse glam pubs to establish career/get funding/tenure. "Do good science" ? What does that even mean? Face it, you have to show the potential to bring in the pubs and funding if you wnat to get hired. </div>
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Hi Lenny,<br />
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I really enjoyed this post! Maybe I missed this in the post (and I haven't combed through all the comments yet), but how do these post-docs with unpublished (or published in a non-HIF journal) great science stack up against post-docs who also have done great science and have already published in HIF journals? Do people from the former group get hired at a rate similar to or greater than the latter? Thanks!</div>
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Hi Lenny,<br />
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I'm not sure this shows what you want it to show. To me, it shows that doing your post-doc in an HHMI/Wellcome/Nobel lab vastly increases your likelihood of success EVEN IF you havn't published in NCS. <br />
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I put together a spreadsheet annotating the Post-Doc lab of each of the folks listed above. All told, I saw -<br />
- Famous advisor (ie., did post-doc in HHMI/Wellcome/Nobel lab) : 12<br />
- Non-famous advisor (ie., did post-doc in non HHHMI /Wellcome/Nobel lab): 21<br />
- Weird inclusion (eg. previous generation or not a biologist) : 4<br />
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I was pretty generous in putting people in the non-famous category. Making some assumptions about the total number of post-docs etc., this gives you an odds ratio of p( job without NCS | famous lab) / p( job without NCS | not famous lab) = 6.3.<br />
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The uncharitable way of reading this is to say that, when you control for having similar publication records (ie., non-NCS) you are 6x more likely to get a job if you come from a "famous lab".<br />
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So, I think that this DOES NOT show that doing science is the only thing that matters. It shows that the fame of your advisor does matter - rather a lot. As someone who did my Ph.D. in an HHMI lab and turned down HHMI post-docs because I was sick of the politics, I can only say - "ugh".<br />
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-A<br />
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Spreadsheet here:<br />
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yC0r3GCHhQ3DLzMqiM0x-Th7cJ38RT3kKdjAIIpID6c/pubhtml</div>
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Great post Lenny!<br />
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Some thoughts:<br />
http://rajlaboratory.blogspot.com/2014/11/why-are-papers-important-for-getting.html</div>
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nice post and good message to convey to post docs on the search for positions. IN my case, I did not puclish yet, but got already invited for interviews in the EU. and yes, I heard, the impact of pubications is stronger, but the good institutes look more on the person. and you can always hand in your manuscript to show the quality of your science. </div>
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Yeah, it's possible, but who is going to bet their career on something so unlikely? Wherever I've been, review panels, faculty council meeting, informal meetings, you name it, *without exception* if someone wants to describe another scientist, they describe where that person published. Any other concept is completely alien to all but a few:<br />
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You're list is sort of like saying: "I know people who got a job despite only working from 9-5." Of course it happens, but do you really want to bet your employment on something so unlikely? I wouldn't.<br />
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P.S.: Of course it goes without saying that a GlamMag pub doesn't come close to guarantee a job - necessary, but not sufficient. I have some top publications but still nearly didn't make it.<br />
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Björn, you opposed the use of journal rank as a sole criterion. Maybe this silver lining on the horizon is the harbinger of the sunrise.<br />
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I agree with you that at present the journal rank is very influential in many, albeit not all, cases. We do not have the data to objectively quantify the distribution of the influence of indirect/surrogate measures. Still, the hope is that attitudes like yours during the site visit in Cologne will increase the fraction of cases in which scientists rely on their own critical evaluation of the scientific results, not their external and often distorted reflections. Keep fighting !</div>
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Thank you for this refreshing post Lenny! I remember having a related discussion 2 years ago. I think it is quite clear that the visibility of the journals in which the papers are published is a factor. The question is how important this factor is. My opinion is that the importance of this factor depends a lot on the specific situation and varies a lot from case to case, from 0 to 99 %. Recently, I received a very formal ranking/evaluation of my faculty application based on bibliometric measures. In other cases, I know of tenure track offers that were based almost exclusively on the support of the post-doctoral mentor (including one on your list). It is hard to generalize. I am very glad that you remind us of what should matter even if it is not always what matters for receiving an offer.</div>
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Thanks Lenny. I'm reminded of a couple a paragraphs from a book about MBAs I once partly read, where I think the author's words about the top business schools transfers to this discussion. ScienceNatureCell may <span style="font-style: italic;">accept</span> good scientists, but they don't <span style="font-style: italic;">make</span> them.</div>
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“Top business schools are notoriously hard to get into—the programs can afford to be picky because of their reputations. It’s circular. The reputation of a business school is built on the success of its graduates, so the top schools only admit those students intelligent and ambitious enough to make it through the rigorous selection process—the ones who are already likely to succeed, MBA or no MBA. Business schools don’t create successful people. They simply accept them, then take credit for their success.'</div>
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[Excerpt From: Kaufman, Josh. “The Personal MBA.” PENGUIN group, 2011-03-28]<br />
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I just re-read “<a href="http://genomebiology.com/2014/15/12/556" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Dragging scientific publishing into the 21st century</a>” (Razib Khan, Laurie Goodman, David Mittelman. <span style="font-style: italic;">Genome Biology</span> 2014, 15:556). It ends with:</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Should publishers continue to do business-as-usual, then they will (and frankly should) become dinosaurs, while younger, more innovative and more robust communication venues take the lead. The publishing industry as it is constituted today is doomed to extinction. That isn’t an ‘if’. It’s a ‘when’.</span></div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;"></span>The more I deal with subscription publishers, the more I am convinced that they are trapped in a business model that basically dooms them to the extinction predicted in the above article. The publishers know what is coming, but they are almost powerless to do anything except resist the change. That’s because, as I recently <a href="http://www.thespectroscope.com/read/the-subscription-publisher-is-inherently-anti-science-by-lenny-teytelman-280" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">wrote</a>, their business model is intrinsically anti-Science. Moreover, just as Uber to the taxicab industry and Airbnb to the hotels, the organizations trying to innovate in scholarly communication are directly threatening the very existence of the Corporate Subscription Publisher.</div>
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Science publishing today is tedious and <a href="https://www.pubchase.com/essay/the-power-of-n1-by-arjun-raj-5" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">demoralizing</a>. It’s a war that leaves the authors <a href="http://blog.pubchase.com/we-can-fix-peer-review-now/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">tired and angry</a>. The system we have wastes precious research dollars; it delays and <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2014/04/dear-academia-i-loved-you-but-im.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">undermines science</a>. It’s begging for change, and luckily, much is happening to improve it. Let’s take a look at the major areas of innovation in scholarly communication and the actors involved (spoiler: <strong>1 of the 25 mentions below is from a publisher</strong>; 13 are startups, 7 non-profits, 1 government, and 3 corporate non-publisher). To me, in no particular order, the key ingredients for fixing the mess we have include:</div>
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<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedcommons/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PubMed Commons</a> (govt.)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://pubpeer.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PubPeer</a> (non-profit)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://f1000research.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">F1000Research</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://www.protocols.io/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">protocols.io</a> (startup)</li>
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<strong>Improved discovery of research knowledge</strong></div>
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<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://scholar.google.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">GoogleScholar</a> (corp., not a publisher)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://twitter.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (corp., not a publisher)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://www.readcube.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Readcube</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://sparrho.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Sparrho</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://sciencescape.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Sciencescape</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.pubchase.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PubChase</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://protocols.io/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">protocols.io</a> (startup)</li>
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<strong>UX upgrade for reading, writing and submitting</strong><strong><br /></strong></div>
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<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://www.overleaf.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Overleaf</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.authorea.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Authorea</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://peerj.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PeerJ</a> ((startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://lens.elifesciences.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">eLife LENS</a> (non-profit publisher)</li>
</ul>
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<strong>Article-level metrics</strong></div>
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<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.plos.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PLOS</a> (non-profit)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.mendeley.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Mendeley</a> (ex-startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://www.altmetric.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Altmetric</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://impactstory.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Impactstory</a> (non-profit)</li>
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<strong>Instant publishing and sharing</strong></div>
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<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://figshare.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">figshare</a> (startup)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://biorxiv.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">bioRxiv</a> (non-profit)</li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="http://f1000.com/posters" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">F1000Posters</a></li>
<li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; list-style: disc; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a href="https://github.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">GitHub</a> (startup)</li>
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So my formal prediction is that the innovation will come from the organizations above. Some publishers will die. Some will evolve by buying the startups. Some of the publishers will be bought by the startups of today and tomorrow. But publishers have not innovated truly for centuries, they are not innovating today and they won’t. That’s okay. We shouldn’t blame the publishers for failing to improve science communication any more than we should blame Hilton for not starting Airbnb. But I must admit that working hard to make these publishers extinct feels very very good.</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Note 1</span>: I wrote this in part for the new group on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Science-Communication-Publishing-8240866" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Science Communication & Publishing</a>, started by David Mittelman, one of the authors of the above article. Please join that group and contribute to the discussion.</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Note 2</span>: Like a research review article, I know this post will invariably upset the people that I should have and didn’t mention. This is not an exhaustive list. I apologize deeply in advance. Please make a comment below and I will try to fill in the gaps.</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Note 3</span>: I know there is a rather liberal sprinkling of protocols.io up there. But also kind of silly to take out our platform from the areas it is designed to improve. I excluded the extra protocols.io mentions from the counts.</div>
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The standard problem with categories is that you always end up with elements that are outside of the sets you defined. This is especially true when dealing with innovation. My copout solution is the "other great companies" below.</div>
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<strong>Other Innovators</strong></div>
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It seems to me that arxiv.org should be on your list as well.<br />
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I am particularly enthusiastic for uploading preprints (I am told that the cost of the Arxiv server and web interface is about 10-20 USD per paper -- I know it is more at the bioRxiv) and publishing non-anonymous highlights in overlay "journals/blogs" to emphasize the best research. I think such a system can resolve most of the fundamental problems and save billions from the pockets of conventional publishers. It is perhaps the second best system after all scientists reading all papers, which is clearly not possible. The preprint servers are already functioning, and we need more active scientists to highlight research that they find interesting. I see <a href="https://majesticforest.wordpress.com/2014/09/15/my-best-publishing-experience/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">examples</a> of such highlights as well but we need more, much more.<br />
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There's also MyScienceWork, ScienceOpen, Riffyn, LabGuru, Authorea, Zenodo, & experiment.com, just to name a few particularly promising ones off the top of my head.<br />
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Large corporations mostly know they struggle with innovation. Few large companies have successfully re-invented themselves because this takes lots of risk and lots of failure. When there is success, it's often a case of timing rather than strategy or skill. The few that have (Apple, Amazon), have a culture of taking risks that goes all the way to the top and they still get beaten up in the press for it: https://www.google.com/search?q=is+amazon+profitable+yet Somehow "let's make less profit for a little while" doesn't go over well in shareholder meetings.<br />
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So the role of a large company is to recognize innovation when it does happen externally and embrace it, rather than try to shut it down. To their credit, Elsevier is trying to do this with Axon: http://elsevieraxon.com and Macmillan is trying to do this with Digital Science.<br />
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So it's not that they just don't understand and are actively hostile. There are many good people there who want to do the right thing (along with some hostile ones too), but mainly there's just not a culture of taking risks in these large traditional organizations. That's really what it comes down to.<br />
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Taxi companies didn't have apps before Uber, and publishers weren't really interested in social networks before Mendeley (as anyone who worked on Connotea can tell you). Now they do and now they are. Stay tuned, because we live in interesting times.<br />
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Hi Lenny, Thanks for this post! Agreed that innovation in scholarly publishing is absolutely key to companies surviving. Authors are demanding more from publishers, as they should be. Just wanted to chime in with a few publishers you might want to add under open peer review (and other categories):<br />
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<strong>PeerJ</strong>: They offer authors the option to publish their review history alongside their article. Many of their reviewers also sign their reports.<br />
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<strong>BioMed Central</strong>: All the medical journals in the BMC series publish the peer review history with the articles. BMC's journal <span style="font-style: italic;">GigaScience</span> also practices open peer review.<br />
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<strong>Royal Society</strong>: Their new open access journal <span style="font-style: italic;">Open Science</span> will offer optional open peer review. They will also be implementing post-publication comments and ALMs.<br />
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<strong>MDPI</strong>: Their journal <span style="font-style: italic;">Life</span> offers optional open peer review.<br />
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<strong>eLife</strong>: They publish the decision letter along with author responses (if authors agree), and also have an interesting practice where reviewers meet online to discuss their reviews. As an aside, check out some of their innovations in viewing content, like <a href="http://lens.elifesciences.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">eLife Lens</a>.<br />
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<strong>ScienceOpen</strong>: They implement open post-publication peer review, and are doing many other innovative things, like free online collaboration tools. <br />
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It's important to mention too that all of the above journals are open access. I'm sure I've forgotten some, but hope all this info helps!</div>
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Cool list! I'll put in a plug to add Research Square. :) We've got peer review untethered from a particular journal (through Rubriq) and I am hearing a lot about article-level metrics, discovery, and post-publication discussion/review through JournalGuide. Plus the language editing/translation stuff to make it all go a bit smoother (through AJE). https://www.researchsquare.com</div>
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I often bump into biomedical researchers who do not think that there is a problem with reproducibility. They say it’s just an issue of cancer studies or pre-clinical research. As Francis Collins said at a recent conference that I attended, “If you think reproducibility is only a problem in other fields, you need another look at yours.” It is a serious problem, and it is widespread. But is there evidence that it is a crisis?</div>
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Most scientists know of the <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/nih-mulls-rules-for-validating-key-results-1.13469" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Bayer and Amgen reports</a> showing that far fewer than 50% of published research results are reproducible. But it’s not simply a pre-clinical research plague. After a dozen years as a researcher, I have no problem believing the famous paper from John Ioannidis, <a href="http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Why Most Published Research Findings Are False</a>. If you prefer more empirical and less theoretical studies, you'll enjoy <a href="https://peerj.com/articles/148/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">On the reproducibility of science: unique identification of research resources in the biomedical literature</a> by Nicole Vasilevsky and colleagues. Vasilevsky's work shows clearly the extent of the problems across different research fields.</div>
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I am asking if reproducibility is a crisis because this is crucial for guiding our response to the issue. How much more reproducible was science 20 or 30 years ago? I wish the <a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/09/reliability_of_new_drug_target.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Bayer study</a> was reproducing another one from them for the 90s. If 70% of published research was reproducible 50 years ago, and now it's the inverse, we have a crisis. However, my suspicion is that we have a problem and reproducibility is a bit worse now than in the past due to the <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/111/16/5773" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">intense hypercompetition in biomedical research</a>, coupled with our <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2015/03/public-service-announcement-john-wiley.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">350-year-old publishing system</a>. </div>
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In a few days, I will publish <a href="http://www.thespectroscope.com/read/we-can-and-should-improve-reproducibility-but-its-not-a-by-lenny-teytelman-309" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">a follow-up post</a> with thoughts on effective approaches to increasing reproducibility. I am assuming that this is an old problem that requires attention, but not a crisis that necessitates panic. If I am wrong, please correct me.</div>
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[<strong>UPDATE 4/11/15</strong>: Just came across Stephen Heard's <a href="https://scientistseessquirrel.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/our-literature-isnt-a-big-pile-of-facts/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">excellent post</a> from a few days ago, with his answer to exactly this question.]</div>
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<span style="font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal;">I personally think it's an old problem that needs attention, and it's questionable how much attention we should pay to it. There's just not a lot in the way of sensible ways to enforce reproducibility. I think that things that work really spread quickly, and things that don't, well, don't. I think one of the main responsibilities for a PI is to work with their trainees on how to spot when something (a paper, or maybe a whole field) smells a bit funny.</span></div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-16035717640003175522019-03-06T12:40:00.002-08:002019-03-06T12:40:28.717-08:00We can and should improve reproducibility. But it's not a crisis, so can do it without panic.<span style="background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms", trebuchet, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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Three days ago, I asked whether irreproducible research is a <a href="http://www.thespectroscope.com/read/we-have-a-reproducibility-problem-but-is-it-a-crisis-by-lenny-teytelman-308" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">problem or a crisis</a>. I asked on Twitter, consulted Ivan Oransky of RetractionWatch, and discussed over e-mail with many.</div>
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The overwhelming consensus is that it is indeed an old problem rather than a new crisis. Most have heard that <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v483/n7391/full/483531a.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Bayer and Amgen</a> could not reproduce 75-90% of published research. This has been covered extensively in the media (<a href="http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-research-has-changed-world-now-it-needs-change-itself-how-science-goes-wrong" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Economist</a>, <a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203764804577059841672541590" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal</a>, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/science/new-truths-that-only-one-can-see.html?_r=0" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">NY Times</a>, <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/28/us-science-cancer-idUSBRE82R12P20120328" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Reuters</a>, <a href="http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2015/03/19/science-irreproducible-research-quiet-crisis/xunxnfuzwdwYSpVjkx2iQN/story.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Boston Globe</a>). But Bayer and Amgen haven't done their reproducibility studies 20 years ago to be able to say that what we have today is significantly different, and there is simply no evidence today that the situation is dramatically worse.</div>
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And if this isn't a new crisis but an old problem, that has huge implications for how we address it. There have been some extreme reactions to the reports of the irreproducible research (<a href="http://www.nature.com/news/nih-mulls-rules-for-validating-key-results-1.13469" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">let's require independent validation</a> of results before publishing, <a href="http://retractionwatch.com/2015/01/19/universities-agree-refund-grants-whenever-retraction/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">refund grants for retractions</a>, or <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/irish-university-labs-face-external-audits-1.15422" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">insitute random audits of labs</a>). Let's calm down and keep in mind that this same inefficient, messy, hard-to-reproduce research enterprise has given us extraordinary breakthroughs throughout the last century and on economic terms gives <a href="http://www.faseb.org/portals/2/pdfs/opa/2008/nih_research_benefits.pdf" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">phenomenal returns on taxpayer funding</a>. </div>
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At the same time, we shouldn't just pat ourselves on the back and ignore the problems. Just because the return on the taxpayer investment is good, doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to make it better. I am against heavy new regulations and creating bureaucratic overhead at a huge cost, siphoning away money from new research into audits and validation of old results. I am against efforts that throw extra burdens on the scientist when doing the work and publishing it; the scientist is overwhelmed and stressed enough as is. But there is so much we can do if we acknowledge the problem rather than panic about the non-existent crisis.</div>
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If we acknowledge as the Bayer/Amgen reports show and as John Ionnidis argues that <a href="http://thespectroscope.com/read/Most%20Published%20Research%20Findings%20Are%20False" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Most Published Research Findings Are False</a>, perhaps the best way to deal with it is to make it easier to correct the research rather than obsess with making it perfect in the first place? Our whole company exists to make it easier for scientists to share and discover corrections and optimization of published methods on <a href="https://www.protocols.io/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">protocols.io</a> (<a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/01/beyond-lab-folklore-and-mythology.html#comment-1798673964" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">great post</a> from Mike Loukides on why this is so critical for reproducibility). Here are some of the many other terrific efforts that address the reproducibility problem in biomed while making scientists' lives easier:</div>
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The very nature of science research, because it's pushing the boundaries, is that much of what is published is inherently wrong. Just as software released by startups cannot be free of bugs, striving to publish research that is 100% verified and correct would undermine the progress of science. Good startups fix these bugs quickly. Let's make it easier for the scientists to do the same.</div>
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[<strong>UPDATE 4/11/15: </strong>Just came across Stephen Heard's <a href="https://scientistseessquirrel.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/our-literature-isnt-a-big-pile-of-facts/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">excellent post from a few days ago</a>, making a similar argument.]</div>
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<span style="font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Hi Lenny, I agree completely. I think a lot of the problem is because of the overemphasis of statistical inference in modern biomedical science. I think the proposed solutions are good ones. I would add another, which is training young scientists to recognize what is real from what is likely bogus. There are some tell-tale signs that we can train people to recognize.</span></div>
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Great post! This is pretty much what I've been trying to say. At that UCL event on fixing science last month I in fact mentioned that the "replicaton crisis" is very old as are many of the other problems we are currently worry about so much. I believe scientists should -always- consider how the process of science can be improved just as they should always think about how to improve their experiments - that's what we mean by saying science is self-correcting.</div>
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I believe science has come a long way from the early 1900s when it was almost exclusively the domain of well-to-do white men, there was no formal peer review, only basic statistical techniques were available to scrutinise results, and nobody had even heard of "open science." Obviously, we shouldn't pat ourselves on the back. It's a constant process of self-improvement. The suggestions you make all make perfect sense to me.</div>
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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Interesting perspective - nice point about the cost to progress of insisting that every result be "verified and correct". I recently made some similar arguments </span><a href="http://wp.me/p5x2kS-2v" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">here</a><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">. The "crisis" is indeed very old - </span><a href="http://wp.me/p5x2kS-1M" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Robert Boyle worried about it in the 1600s!</a><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"> </span></div>
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Writing the dissertation is hard. I particularly found the two months of procrastinating and staring at the blank first page painful. That time when you suddenly feel compelled to cook a lavish meal, put together the Ikea shelf that was lying there for five months and generally do anything that gives you an excuse not to stare at that blank page. The 30-second procrastination clip in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268126/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Adaptation</a> captured this perfectly:</div>
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But once I got over the first page, it wasn't all that bad. What helped was my firm conviction that no one would read this behemoth. I couldn't imagine my advisors, knowing every detail of my work over the six years, spending a week re-reading the chapters already published as manuscripts. I had an even harder time imagining them reading the last chapter that they would have to read in a much better manuscript form in a few months, once the last experiments are done. So I assumed that only the abstract, acknowledgements and the introductory paragraph had a chance of being scanned by the poor professors on my thesis committee.</div>
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Not only was I sure no one would read it, I was convinced Michael Eisen, my co-advisor wouldn't even flip through it carefuly before signing. So we had a $5 bet with my labmate Ryan Shultzaberger. Inserted the page above into both of our theses, and sure enough, I won. Mike signed both of them without flagging the photo until we showed it to him at the graduation party.<br />
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Now there is an occasional outlier on your thesis committee. I actually had one professor who read every single word, edited extensively and met with me for three hours to discuss some of the phrasing. These faculty are rare and everyone knows who they are. Ask around if you have one on your committee. The consensus around these PIs is usually something like, "Yes, he will read it. His students would be better served if instead he read their manuscript drafts. Those have been on his desk for a months." And if you do have this person, the tip is to politely thank them, implement the changes on the first few pages and ignore the bulk of useless editing. Sit on it for a week, then give it back in printed form. Even these PIs are not that crazy to re-read and search for your edits.</div>
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When I asked about the value of this time-intensive excersise, my co-advisor Jasper Rine said, "Well, after this, any grant or fellowship proposal you write in the future will seem infinitely tractable." </div>
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What is the etiquette for disclosing an anonymous review that you wrote? It’s not a trivial question because all of us have the natural sense that an anonymous review is supposed to stay anonymous. Even I, an advocate of non-anonymous open peer review, see the problem of going public with something that was written in private at the request of an editor, with the understanding from the author and the journal that the review is private and anonymous.</div>
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I tracked <a href="https://twitter.com/surt_lab/status/604740409642786817" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">an excellent and extensive discussion</a> of this on Twitter, I listened, I have been thinking hard about it for a few hours on the airplane. And the more I think about this, the clearer it is that it is deeply wrong to keep silent about a paper you reviewed and think is flawed. Yes, we have the responsibility to the author of the paper to be civil. But that author-reviewer contract stands in direct conflict with the responsibility to the scientific community.</div>
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Suppose I got the STAP paper to review, I saw through it and outlined the fundamental flaws. Then the <span style="font-style: italic;">Nature </span>editor made the call to publish it anyway. Can I make my review public? By keeping silent, I am honoring a single author and disrespecting a world of researchers. By keeping silent, I am letting students and postdocs waste months or years chasing smoke. I have a responsibility to the countless scientists following up on the published work. I have the responsibility to science and society. I think that science, society and that world of researchers override my oath to the author.</div>
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Now we come to the question of the appropriate means of responding. Every single person whose work is questioned fires back with “This is unprecedented! Why didn’t you contact me first? Why didn’t you write to the editor? Where is your civility? You didn’t follow the etiquette!” Well, very often, any attempt to do it the “expected civil way” is blocked by the journal or the highly influential researcher you disagree with. It can take years to publish a rebuttal. Journals often reject letters of concern because it’s not fun to publish them. By arguing for the via-editor/journal way, we are placing an extraordinary burden on the scientist raising the question. We are telling that scientist to shut up and keep quiet.</div>
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Yes, we should be civil and focus on the science rather than personal motivations. We don’t need to accuse of misconduct, unless we have clear proof of it. We don’t need to be mean. But we have to be honest and we have to encourage open and critical post-publication discussion. In the Twitter thread on this, I see completely random lines drawn on the good and bad way to have post-publication discussion. Alerting the editor and trying to publish the rebuttal in the original journal is okay but elsewhere it’s not. Publishing elsewhere is okay if it’s a journal, but not okay if it isn’t peer-reviewed. Publishing a critique on a blog is okay, but disclosing your review on PubPeer is out of line.</div>
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Those lines are entirely random. My paper was ripped to shreds in a <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25164749#cm25164749_6520" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"><span style="font-style: italic;">Nature</span>publication</a> from Mike Snyder's group. No one reached out to me, even though I had personally discussed our results with Mike Snyder prior to submitting the work for publication. Mike Snyder could have easily contacted me as we had even been co-authors on another paper. I found the critique accidentally through my <a href="http://pubchase.com/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PubChase</a>recommendations. I responded <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25164749#cm25164749_6520" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">on PubMed Commons</a> and <a href="https://pubpeer.com/publications/67A83944F4199620C531991D6D92A6" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">on PubPeer</a>. At least my response went to the corresponding author via PubPeer. (Note, I have no problem with my paper being scrutinized and criticized. I don't think Mike Snyder's group needed to talk to me first. But see Note below on Mike Snyder's perspective regarding etiquette.) </div>
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There is no rhyme or reason to personal opinions of what is and isn’t ethical for post-publication disputes. By asking people not to criticize we undermine science. We hurt scientists. We hurt ourselves. We have to grow up. It’s not about us – it’s about the science. We have to learn to criticize each other in a firm but civil manner. That’s doable any way you like, Twitter, original journal, PubPeer, your blog, PubMed Commons. Some are going to be mean and uncivil no matter where. Most of us can be respectful and focus on the science. <strong>All of us need to embrace post-publication critique.</strong></div>
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Note: here are recent examples of post-publication critiques that were flagged as uncivil.</div>
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1. Yoav Gilad was criticized for <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/potential-flaws-in-genomics-paper-scrutinized-on-twitter-1.17591" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">disputing</a> Mike Snyder’s work. And Mike Snyder said, " “If someone has concerns, the normal route is to contact the journal or the authors,. There was an avalanche of comments before we even knew about it.”</div>
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2. Lior Pachter was criticized for <a href="https://liorpachter.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/pachters-p-value-prize/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">questioning</a> the conclusions of Eric Lander and Manolis Kellis.</div>
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3. Vicki Vance was criticized for making public her <a href="https://pubpeer.com/publications/F5BA8FE3EF8860205332839D02BBDD#fb27806" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">review on PubPeer</a> (more <a href="http://www.lab-times.org/editorial/e_600.lasso" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">here</a>).</div>
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4. The Berkeley students David Broockman and Joshua Kalla were <a href="http://retractionwatch.com/2015/05/29/data-were-destroyed-due-to-privacyconfidentiality-requirements-says-co-author-of-retracted-gay-canvassing-study/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">criticized for attacking LaCour’s</a> work and leading to a retraction of his paper. LaCour wrote, "I note that Broockman et al. (2015)’s decision to not present the lead author with the critique directly, by-pass the peer-review process, privately investigate data collection activities without knowledge or consent of the author, demand confidential identifying information from respondents in a study without grounds or standing to do so, publicize unsubstantiated allegations and hearsay prior to a formal investigation, is unprecedented, unethical, and anomalous in the relevant literature."</div>
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My personal experience on attempts to communicate with authors of flawed papers, as a reviewer or just as a reader, is horrendously bad.<br />
No reply<br />
No reply on a second email<br />
No eye contact at conferences, no return greeting, turning away and walking off<br />
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Worse, there are by now two papers I found serious flaws in (and no, I wasn't wrong: if measurements are off by an order of magnitude, then I am well competent to check that, and the editors agreed with me) that later were published unaltered in other journals.<br />
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Lesson learned: I will now write two papers, each exposing the flaws of one paper I reviewed, and I will explicitly ask for the authors not to be allowed to review.<br />
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Admittedly, I had one very good experience. Just one. But although that colleague behaved perfectly professional, we now privately are no longer on speaking terms.</div>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">In 2006, a badly flawed paper on a subject that I know pretty well was published in </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-variant-ligatures: normal;">PLoS Biology</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">. I was part of a six-person team who wrote a rebuttal, which PLoS Biology rejected as insufficiently novel. Appeals were written and rejected. All six of us eventually found more rewarding things to do and drifted away from the project. So the original paper still stands unchallenged.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">These days, I wouldn't waste my time on that process, which </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-variant-ligatures: normal;">at best</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"> would have resulted in a response being published six months after the event when everyone had forgotten about it. I'd just go right ahead and blog about it. There's no argument to be had here: blogs are simply a much, much better medium for carrying on a dispute than peer-reviewed papers. They move faster, they're more interactive, and crucially they can't be blocked.</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Lenny,</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">I hear that some of these post publication discussions erupt on blogs because the journals refuse to consider and publish comments for the published papers. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">If I write a review for a paper, I own the review. I refuse to give intellectual rights and ownership to the editors/journals. I better be able to stand up and take responsibility for my reviews and opinions. Since any review I write reflects my opinions, I see no reason not to be able to share my reviews/opinions with the world on say pubmed commons. Whether I was asked by an editor or not to read the paper seems insignificant to me. The important thing is that I read the paper, I have an opinion, it is well considered, and I am willing to take full responsibility for it!</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">[William Gunn]</span></span></span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">I think I have a unique perspective on this because I see how reviews work in both the academic world and in the (academic) software world, where I've been for the past 8 years. It's exceedingly rare that someone gives a heads-up to the author when they're about to write a blog post about a piece of software. Generally, the time from the inspiration for the post to the time when you start writing is hours to days. The higher-profile the reviewer, the more likely they are to give a heads-up. For example, if you are interviewed and give some critical comments to a major media outlet, you'll may get a heads-up, but often only if you ask for it - by no means is this standard or common. If you're a senior VC, you might have your post read by a few other people before posting. Fred Wilson (at http://avc.com ) often does this. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">In this sense, it's a technology problem. Tech companies all have systems for monitoring what gets said about us, with the assumption that not everyone will let us know. Often, people who are commenting are speaking to a very different audience and it might not even occur to them to invite you to comment. They may want to have a discussion among their group and feel like if you jumped in at the start, it would squelch the thread. I know that I always avoided jumping in too early in discussion threads about Mendeley that I found "in the wild" for exactly that reason.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">So in that context, though it seems reasonable, it's unrealistic for any author to expect prior notice of coming criticism. It's also not scalable. If everyone asked everyone before releasing anything they said about anyone, nothing would ever get written. What you're essentially asking, when you ask for prior disclosure of criticism, is just to start the discussion earlier among a smaller group. This is often done to try to keep any possible mistakes you made under wraps. I think there are good arguments to be made for doing so, if you think the reviewer is misunderstood but has a way bigger reach than you do and thus the misunderstanding will become the consensus understanding, but I would suggest that in most cases that's not the dynamic and if your reviewer really is hostile and misunderstood, public reviews give you a perfect opportunity to show the world how misunderstood they really are. Where this dynamic is worst is when a senior scientist has some criticism of a person who's very much the junior. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">With respect to peer review submitted in confidence, I would agree it may not be appropriate to publish your review verbatim ahead of the paper coming out, but once the paper is out, it's fair game and you should rewrite, if necessary, the substance of your review on Pubmed Commons or your blog or PubPeer or wherever you think is best. It's just common sense courtesy that you would invite the author to respond, but a heads-up is not practical in many cases. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Essentially this is a discussion about community norms, so I would suggest the following:</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">1. Inspiration and time is fleeting, so have a bias towards saying something rather than not.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">2. Don't be an asshole.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">3. Forgive other people who are assholes to you.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">4. Review unto others as you would have them review unto you. (credit @ShitAcademicsSay)</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">5. Expect & forgive incompleteness - perfection is unattainable - do the best you can in the time you have.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Practical example: this comment itself is poorly organized, incomplete, and I have to fight the urge to reorganize it. If I invested that time, I would then have to fight the urge to just blog my (then) essay on the topic. However, I'll have to trust that anyone who reads this will give me the benefit of the doubt, because I now have other stuff I have to go do, and I'd never get around to polishing it up and posting it. The same thought process is behind pretty much any review anyone would write. Bias towards action!</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">To be honest, I'm surprised there is so much debate around this. Overall, I agree with your considered thoughts.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">It is pretty unpleasant if you hear on the grapevine that someone has criticised your work, but I don't think that means people shouldn't criticise it. I think, in general, it is a good idea to contact the author to let them know the critique is coming; they won't like it, but at least they won't hear through a third party. But there should be no expectation that the author has a right to veto publication of a critique. It's important to realise that, although it is good to be polite, politeness should never trump concern for accuracy. This is science, not a dinner party.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Once a paper is published, I wouldn't see any reason to hide my appraisal of it, just because the review was originally solicited by a journal editor. The example I gave of this is of a paper in PLOS One. I had reservations about the paper and expressed them in my review, but the paper was published anyhow. I don't think I would have taken further action, except that I saw that Jon Brock had published his reviewer comments on the PLOS One comment site - and he had made a number of points similar to those I made:</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">http://www.plosone.org/annotation/listThread.action?root=66527. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">The authors did respond to Jon's comment, but in a way to imply they had addressed the problems. I didn't think they had, and felt I should add my voice to Brock's, so I also published my review as a comment in the same thread. I felt this was important because this was a paper by an influential author focussing on a serious developmental condition, and my impression was that there had been p-hacking and the results would not be reproducible. </span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">My strong preference these days is to publish in the handful of journals that publish the peer review alongside the paper. PeerJ is exemplary in this regard. One reason I like this is because PeerJ is not well known and if people hear you have a paper there, they tend to assume it hasn't been reviewed properly. I like people to be able to see that the reviews are there, and, in my experience are typically as robust as anywhere else. I also use PubMed Commons increasingly to raise concerns about papers - though in general these are not papers I have reviewed. But I would not hesitate to write there if I felt an important reviewer comment had been overlooked.</span><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;" /><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal;">Dorothy Bishop</span></span></span></span></span>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-21359700923536599002019-03-06T12:31:00.001-08:002019-03-06T12:31:07.544-08:00House Committee AGAINST Science, Space, and Technology?<span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "trebuchet" , "verdana" , sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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I just stumbled into the <a href="https://twitter.com/HouseScience" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">twitter account</a> of the House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology. This is the Committee with <a href="https://science.house.gov/about/jurisdiction" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">jurisdiction</a> over NASA, NSF, EPA, NOAA and many other agencies. I realize that the Chair is Lamar Smith, a famous <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/disgrace-lamar-smith-and-house-science-committee" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">climate-change denier</a>. I know that he has been abusing the Committee to harass scientists with subpoenas. I know that AAAS and several other science societies just sent a <a href="http://www.aaas.org/sites/default/files/Intersociety_NOAA_letter_11-25-2015.pdf" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">letter</a> to Smith warning that the actions of his committee "threaten to inhibit the free exchange of ideas across scientific disciplines not only for NOAA, but for other government experts and the academic and industry scientists with whom they collaborate."</div>
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I know all of the above, and yet I was stunned to see the twitter feed of this Committee. The chair is a Republican, but this is supposed to be a bipartisan Committee acting in the interests of science and technology. As is, I wonder if their Twitter account has been outsourced to someone from FoxNews. </div>
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A quick search shows <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=foxnews%20from%3Ahousescience&src=typd" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">12 tweets from FoxNews</a>. What about from the New York Times? Just 1, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=nytimes%20from%3Ahousescience&src=typd" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">critical</a> of the EPA.</div>
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And if we search the Committee's tweets on "NSF", instead of highlighting amazing discoveries, we get mocking such as:</div>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-18885919717153013412019-03-06T12:30:00.001-08:002019-03-06T12:30:20.957-08:00Is sexual harassment less common in biology than in astronomy?<span style="background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: #666666; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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Recent news is full of headlines such as <a href="http://www.themarysue.com/congresswoman-fights-sexual-harassment-in-astronomy/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Congresswoman Proposes Bill to Fight Astronomy’s Sexual Harassment Problem</a>, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/01/13/astronomys-snowballing-sexual-harassment-scandal-picks-up-even-more-cases/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Astronomy’s snowballing sexual harassment scandal picks up even more cases</a>, <a href="http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/astronomys-sexual-harassment-problem-gets-congressional-attention/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Astronomy’s sexual harassment problem gets Congressional attention</a>, <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/01/gender-discrimination-astronomy/422817/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Astronomers Are Finally Doing Something About Sexual Harassment</a> and countless others. Painful and powerful stories are being shared under <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23astroSH&src=tyah" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">#AstroSH</a>. This creates an impression that as an academic field, astronomy may be an outlier in sexual harassment. I am not sure this is true.</div>
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A professor wrote to me yesterday, <span style="font-style: italic;">"Lenny, I'm hoping things are not so bad on the bio/biomed side of research. I've not seen any examples this bad, also there are better safeguards in the med schools that I've worked in. Hoping that is not unusual." </span>I really want her to be right. I want to think that sexual harassment in biology is infinitely less common than in other fields. But I think the same structural issues that plague astronomy are present across all research disciplines. </div>
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I looked up two molecular biology professors that were accused of sexual harassment <strong>[see correction below]</strong>. Both were pushed out of their schools (one a medical school and one a university). Where are they now? One is a full professor at Columbia U. and the other at U. of Chicago. And when Arnold Levine, president of Rockefeller U., stepped down due to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/11/nyregion/amid-inquiry-president-of-rockefeller-u-resigns.html" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">inappropriate sexual contact with a student</a>, he transferred to Rutgers. </div>
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I don't have any statistics about the frequency of sexual harassment, by academic field of study. Not sure such stats exist. But it's pretty clear that the same things are going on in biology - it's the abusers rather than the victims who are protected. I'm glad that Buzzfeed's Azeen Ghorayshi, Cat Ferguson, and Virginia Hughes are dedicated to investigating these cases (see <a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/ott-harassment-investigation" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/famous-astronomer-allegedly-sexually-harassed-students" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">here</a>). Glad that Representative <a href="http://www.wired.com/2016/01/jackie-speier-sexual-harassment-science/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Jackie Speier is focusing on this</a>. And I hope none of us file this into the "it's not in our field" mental drawer.</div>
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<strong>[Correction 1/15/15]</strong></div>
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In the original post, I wrote, <span style="font-style: italic;">"I looked up two molecular biology professors that were found guilty of sexual harassment in the last ten years. Both were pushed out of their schools (one a medical school and one a university)." </span>I had wrong information about one of them, and the details are complicated. I corrected the wording to, <span style="font-style: italic;">"I looked up two molecular biology professors that were accused of sexual harassment."</span></div>
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<strong>[Update, 1/14/15]</strong></div>
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Several people reminded me about this study on sexual harassment in field work:</div>
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Clancy KBH, Nelson RG, Rutherford JN, Hinde K (2014) <a href="http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0102172" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Survey of Academic Field Experiences (SAFE): Trainees Report Harassment and Assault.</a> PLoS ONE 9(7): e102172. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0102172</div>
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Of the 658 survey respondents, <strong>64%</strong> reported being targets of sexual harassment, and over <strong>20%</strong> of sexual assault. So it's very possible, given frequent field work in biology, that sexual harassment is even more frequent than in astronomy.</div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-81977933544272171032019-03-06T12:28:00.002-08:002019-03-06T12:28:34.601-08:00When good nonprofits collide: the battle between Open Access and Academic Societies<span style="background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: #666666; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13.199999809265137px;">[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]</span><br />
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Many academic societies do wonderful things for science, scientists, and society. They advocate, educate, support trainees, organize productive conferences, act as publishers whose goal is to improve rather than reject any given paper. As a geneticist, I have attended many of the <a href="http://www.genetics-gsa.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">GSA’s</a> yeast conferences since 2003, and they were always a highlight of my academic training. The GSA was and continues to be an early and key supporter of our <a href="http://thespectroscope.com/read/protocols.io" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">protocols.io</a> startup. I am a big fan of Stefano Bertuzzi, the head of the <a href="http://www.ascb.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">ASCB</a>, and I worship ASCB’s career improvement workshops at the annual Cell Biology conference. I am also volunteering for the <a href="http://www.evolutionsociety.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">SSE’s</a> diverse careers task force to bring ASCB-like career mentorship to the Evolution conference. I am a track chair for the 2017 <a href="https://www.slas.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">SLAS</a> conference.</div>
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I am a big fan of academic societies. I am also a big fan of <a href="https://www.plos.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PLOS</a> and open access. As such, I find myself torn between entities that are fundamentally at odds with each other. The societies are threatened by open access and many senior scientists detest PLOS and PLOS ONE for “sucking up all oxygen and undermining society journals.” The problem is that for many societies, the majority of their revenue comes from subscription publishing, and PLOS and open access are a real threat to the financial sustainability of these societies.</div>
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As I converse with editors and executive members of these societies, we often start with a general argument over open access. I’ve lost count of the number of times I have heard “almost everyone who needs access has it; subscription paywalls really don’t hurt anyone.” I push back strongly against this, because this line is deeply flawed. And then, invariably, we end up at “But our society journal cannot go open access. We would need to charge $4,000-$5,000 for each paper, and we could never compete with PLOS ONE and the other PLOS journals in that case. But unlike PLOS, our society does a lot of good for scientists.”</div>
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I can write pages and pages on the good that PLOS has done for science and society. But instead, I want to focus on a simple argument – if scientists won’t pay $5,000 per paper to publish with you, you are charging too much. Open Access publishing model brings this cost to light, and scientist rebel. Subscriptions hide the cost to everyone except the librarians, propping up the 30%-40% profit margins that Elsevier, Wiley, Springer and many professional society journals enjoy.</div>
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I cannot accept the argument that because societies do a lot of good, charging $5,000 for a paper with a 40% profit margin, is somehow justified. Paywalls to research hurt scientists and non-scientists alike. They hurt patients, journalists, teachers, academics who are not at elite institutions. The Gates foundation is right to require OA-only publishing starting in 2017 from all scientists funded by its grants.</div>
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To argue that societies do good, hence we shouldn’t move to OA and we should continue to pay exorbitant fees to publish and access the research papers – that is like arguing that because medical schools do a lot of good in education, it’s acceptable for hospitals to overcharge patients. It is not. I worry about the academic societies because they do provide a valuable service. I worry that many of them might evaporate over the next 10-20 years because publishing will become entirely open access. I hope the societies can find alternative sustainable revenue sources. But I aggressively reject the argument that we need to prop up subscription publishing for the good of academic societies.</div>
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<strong>Note: </strong>I am not making an argument that the society journals are not useful. Many of these journals are good communities that serve their fields well. They care deeply about improving science and they review to improve the papers and the science in them. As I <a href="https://www.protocols.io/g/protocolsio/news/what-does-a-journal-do" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">recently wrote</a>, there is a lot of important work that a good journal does. I do not want society journals to die. I want them to switch to open access and for their societies to figure out how to be sustainable without overcharging for the publishing work.</div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-22180568001768867022019-03-06T12:24:00.003-08:002019-03-06T12:24:55.927-08:00What is the ethical compensation for nonprofit executives? (Should you boycott PLOS?)[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]<br />
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Over the last week, there's been a storm over the executive compensation and financials at the Public Library of Science (PLOS). It was started by a series of tweets from Professor Andrew Kern, looking into the financial disclosures of PLOS and learning that they pay good salaries and have operating margins. Andrew then concluded:</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">PLOS's financials reveal that they are merely trying to maximize their personal and corporate profit, like any company. They are padding the wallets of their executives and taking our grant money and putting in in the stock market. They are merely another Nature or Science that aims to maximize profits while cloaking itself in the white robes of OA.</span></div>
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Not surprisingly, many scientists were outraged and <a href="https://twitter.com/lteytelman/status/711587833027252226" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">accused PLOS of being evil</a>. I was puzzled by the strong negative reaction to the fact that PLOS pays the people who work for it competitive salaries. Clearly, many academics were shocked to learn that six figure salaries are normal for executives of large nonprofits. It doesn't seem "fair" to many. So, <a href="https://twitter.com/lteytelman/status/711948625983569920" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">I asked</a>:</div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Simple question to Andrew Kern and all upset with PLOS salaries - if YOU were on the board of PLOS, how would YOU set exec salaries? (No doubt there's been <a href="http://www.epi.org/publication/top-ceos-make-300-times-more-than-workers-pay-growth-surpasses-market-gains-and-the-rest-of-the-0-1-percent/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">corrosive excessive growth of CEO salaries for decades now</a>. But for a given organization that you want to see succeed, given market executive salaries, what would YOU do?</span></div>
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The are <a href="https://twitter.com/lteytelman/status/711948625983569920" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">many who replied</a> to me. It was a good discussion. But the concerete answers to my question were of the type: </div>
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Let's pick one of them - Andy Kern's maximum of "5x of graduate stipend". That's about 5*$30,000 = $150,000/year. So if Andy ran PLOS, he would pay the executives at most $150K, and that means Andy would simply run PLOS into the ground because he would lose all the talented executives. And since Andy is an advocate for open access, I don't understand why he would want to destroy PLOS. Sure, he says that executives who would leave are simply "<a href="https://twitter.com/pastramimachine/status/712074311578861570" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">not into the mission</a>," so good riddance. </div>
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But, I am genuinely puzzled over how people who support the push for open access can simultaneously advocate for the destruction of PLOS. Looking at 990 forms of other societies, it quickly becomes clear that the executives at PLOS have competitive but not at all obscene compensation. Quick check, comparing salaries from 990 forms at <a href="https://www.plos.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2014-PUBLIC-DISCLOSURE-VERSION-FORM-990-Signed.pdf" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PLOS</a>, <a href="http://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/about/aboutacs/financial/2014-irs-form-990.pdf" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">ACS</a>, <a href="http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/530/530196568/530196568_201312_990.pdf?_ga=1.27707260.1302803578.1458669345" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">AAAS</a>.</div>
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Those are comparisons to other large non-profits. How much lower can PLOS go in paying its executives before they leave to be publishers at other nonprofit societies or to Elsevier/Wiley/Springer?</div>
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While much of the outrage was centered around the salaries, some people were upset that PLOS has margins and savings. Again, this seems to stem from the misunderstanding of how nonprofits work. All successful societies have operating margins and reserves. In fact, <a href="http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1883" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">as Michael Eisen writes</a>, most scientific societies have larger "assets to expenses" ratios than PLOS.</div>
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So my plea to everyone who is outraged by PLOS finances and threatening to boycott publishing there - please think about the above as though you are running PLOS and <strong>want open access to succeed</strong>. Remember that when it comes to publishing, many societies are making $5K-$6K per published paper, from combination of subscriptions and publishing charges. These societies have often 30%-50% margins on the publishing, compared to the 20% at PLOS. And at the end, the papers are locked behind subscription paywalls.</div>
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Randy Olson was one of the people upset by the high salaries. Instead of answering my question of what he would pay, he replied that what bothers him most is that <a href="https://twitter.com/randal_olson/status/712245784117448706" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">PLOS isn't trying to make publishing cheaper</a>. And that's another puzzle. First of all, PLOS already made publishing cheaper at ~2K/paper instead of the average $6K that subscription publishers get. Second, <a href="https://www.plos.org/about/financials/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">it's clear that PLOS is investing the extra capital into infrastructure</a>, and I imagine the goal of this is exactly to lower the publishing costs. After all, PLOS has to compete with PeerJ, F1000 Research, and a sea of other open access journals. Because PLOS pays its employees well and has devoted and talented folks, I'm sure they are keenly aware of the need to reduce the publication charges.</div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-43453093034194228962019-03-06T12:22:00.002-08:002019-03-06T12:22:45.995-08:00An open letter to the Scientific Advisory Board of Elysium, the anti-aging supplement company[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]<br />
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Dear Members of Elysium's Scientific Advisory Board:</div>
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I am a geneticist and have been absolutely fascinated by aging research since 2003. I write to you to ask you to reconsider your participation in the scientific advisory board of Elysium Health, Inc.</div>
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The amazing research into the genetics of aging is undermined by a premature rush to consumer pills. Particularly, the reputation of the field is compromised by the association with the supplement industry. As Dr. Derek Lowe <a href="http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/04/25/subtle-changes-can-be-yours-for-fifty-dollars-a-month" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">just wrote</a>, </div>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">It [Elysium Health] makes the legitimate research in this field seem a bit less respectable, which isn’t good, and it makes the supplement hawkers seem a bit more respectable by association, and that’s probably not what Elysium was planning on, either.</span></div>
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By <a href="https://www.elysiumhealth.com/team" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">lending your names</a> to Elysium Health, you help to give confidence to a supplement pill that has zero evidence of doing anything to delay aging in humans. The supplement industry thrives on evidence-free placebo effects, to the point of generating $25 billion in sales per year. With Elysium prominently featuring each of you on their website, there is a sense of scientific gravitas and anti-aging promise that is unheard of in this industry.</div>
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Considering the ease with which supplement producers already take advantage of the consumers with the marketing of placebos, Elysium is in a remarkable position to take such behavior to a new level. With your names backing the company and the natural human quest to delay aging and death, Elysium stands to make billions of dollars. Elysium could make these billions long before there are any data to indicate whether the $50 per month the consumers will spend has any benefit for their health.</div>
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I respect each of you as scientists, and I sincerely hope that you will weigh the impact of your affiliation with a rush to market of an anti-aging supplement pill.</div>
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[This is a copy of my blogpost, previously on thespectroscope.com.]<br />
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There is no shortage of historic examples of women scientists not getting the credit they deserve due to sexism (<a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130519-women-scientists-overlooked-dna-history-science/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">a few</a> of the countless examples). This is so pervasive, there is actually a name for this, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_effect" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">The Matilda Effect</a>, and papers like <a href="http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0306312711435830" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">this</a> have been published about it.</div>
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While we all know about this, it’s been shocking for me to personally watch this unfold in the case of Dr. Elizabeth Iorns, the key person behind the Reproducibility Project Cancer Biology (RPCB). As we learn from RPCB that reproducing cancer research is extraordinarily hard, we also get a demonstration of just how strong and reproducible the Matilda Effect still is.</div>
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As a cancer researcher, Dr. Iorns had personal painful experiences, trying to replicate published work. Later, as the CEO of ScienceExchange, she noticed that many scientists were asking for validation of cancer research results. This inspired Dr. Iorns to start the <a href="https://blog.scienceexchange.com/2012/08/the-reproducibility-initiative/" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">Reproducibility Initiative</a> in 2012, in partnership with PLOS and figshare. As a next step in 2013, Dr. Iorns collaborated with Dr. William Gunn to put together a proposal for a major study of reproducibility in cancer research. Together, they <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianNosek/status/822089669022273536" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">brought in Dr. Brian Nosek</a> of the Center for Open Science to collaboratively apply for a grant on RPCB.</div>
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A few weeks ago, the first results from RPCB were <a href="https://elifesciences.org/collections/reproducibility-project-cancer-biology" style="border: 0px; color: #0a6d9e; font-family: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank">published</a>, with extensive coverage by major news outlets. I was stunned to see just how many of them minimized or entirely ignored the role of Dr. Iorns.</div>
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I went through the January articles covering RPCB, and half of them fail to mention the role of Dr. Iorns altogether, quoting and mentioning only Dr. Nosek. Two others, Gizmodo and Wired mention both, but erroneously credit Dr. Nosek with the RPCB idea. Dr. Nosek even publicly corrected the Wired article:</div>
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one correction to history described. <a href="https://twitter.com/elizabethiorns?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@elizabethiorns</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/mrgunn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mrgunn</a> initiated the project idea and brought me in, not the reverse.</div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I first met William Gunn in 2013, when protocols.io was just an idea and we were nearly broke. William instantly connected to our mission and became determined to help us. He connected us to Victor Henning, the cofounder of Mendeley, for a Skype call. That call was critical and the advice from Victor may have saved our nascent startup.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After that, William continued to advise us, advocate for us, and helped us to succeed with our Kickstarter. He was so genuinely supportive and gave us so much of his time, I offered to make him an advisor and to give him standard advisor equity in protocols.io. William thanked me and replied that he was helping because of what we are doing for science, not because of compensation. I insisted, as I didn't want to take advantage of people who help. William asked to think about it. A week later, he e-mailed me to say that he thinks it would be a conflict of interest for him to take advisor equity, given his employment with Mendeley/Elsevier.</span></span></span><br />
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-35414311975852717172016-10-13T09:29:00.001-07:002016-10-13T09:29:11.453-07:00Because of Donald Trump, I'm speaking up publicly for the first time about being sexually assaulted.<div>
Twenty years ago, an elderly tailor in Brooklyn, NY sexually assaulted me. I was 19. I never reported it. Only my closest friends and relatives knew about it until now.</div>
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I came in to shorten pants from a hand-me-down suit. The tailor closed the curtains and asked me to take off my jeans. He measured my legs. Then he pulled down my underwear and proceeded to do things that I am not able to share even now.</div>
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I didn't scream. I didn't beat him up, even though I was way taller and bigger than him. My brain froze. I thanked him and left. </div>
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A few years later I saw this episode of <i>Friends. </i>While millions laughed, I lost the ability to sleep for a few nights.</div>
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I am sharing this now because of the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/multiple-women-accuse-donald-trump-of-making-sexual-advances/2016/10/13/3862fab0-9140-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html" target="_blank">accusations against Trump</a> and because of Trump's response:<br />
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Why didn't the writer of the twelve year old article in People Magazine mention the "incident" in her story. Because it did not happen!</div>
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I am sharing this now because of<a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-new-sexual-harassment-allegations-229724" target="_blank"> every Trump supporter</a> who is saying, "These are fabricated stories that are politically motivated attacks. If these charges were true, the women would have spoken up before."<br />
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I haven't spoken up before. Many reasons not to, even for a man like me. Even against an old shriveled pervert tailor, I didn't speak up. For a woman to speak up against Donald Trump would be infinitely harder.<br />
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I didn't say anything 12 or 20 years ago. However, if that pervert tailor surfaced publicly now and tried to run for political office, you bet I would have decided to come forward, just as I did here.<br />
<script async="" charset="utf-8" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js"></script>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-20853277587469048472016-09-20T12:08:00.002-07:002016-09-20T12:08:56.906-07:00Let's not pretend there are still lines left to cross for Trump. I have lost count of the number of headlines with, "Trump has finally crossed a line..." The problem is that short of openly calling for genocide, there are no more lines left for Trump to cross.<br />
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I understand the shock and outrage with each new despicable utterance from Trump. The problem is that by reacting to each new one with "this is the final one!" we implicitly pardon everything else that he said. We suggest that everything before was forgivable. We give cover to the people who still endorse him.<br />
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<i>[just a small sample of the "crossed the line" headlines]</i><br />
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Sept. 20, NPR: <a href="http://www.npr.org/2016/09/20/494558977/with-donald-trumps-birther-spin-hes-crossed-a-line?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news" target="_blank">With Donald Trump's Birther Spin, He's Crossed A Line</a>.<br />
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Aug. 9, Esquie: <a href="http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a47492/trump-hillary-assassination/" target="_blank">The Moment You Realize Trump Finally Crossed the Line</a> (On Trump suggesting "Second Amendment people" should kill Hillary Clinton)<br />
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Aug. 1, 2016 Chicago Tribune: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-glanton-muslim-soldier-20160801-column.html" target="_blank">Trump crosses line on Muslim patriots who balance religion, duty</a> (After Trump attacked Gold Star parent Khizr and Ghazala Khan)<br />
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July 29, Chicago Tribune: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-republicans-speak-out-if-only-for-our-national-security-20160729-story.html" target="_blank">Trump's comments on Russia cross a line</a> (encouraging Russia to hack HRC emails)<br />
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July 6, Boston Globe: <a href="https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/07/06/rep-seth-moulton-trump-crossed-line-by-praising-saddam-hussein" target="_blank">Rep. Moulton: Trump crossed line by praising Saddam Hussein</a><br />
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June 2, The Guardian: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/02/donald-trump-bully-race-bait-judge-gonzalo-curiel-trump-university" target="_blank">Donald Trump's judge-bashing crosses a line</a> (Mexican judge cannot be impartial because he is Mexican)<br />
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Feb 8, 2016, MotherJones: <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/so-just-happened-donald-trump-rally" target="_blank">Donald Trump Just Crossed a New Line in American Politics</a><br />
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July 21, 2015, CNN: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/trump-republicans-mccain/" target="_blank">GOP to Trump: You crossed the line</a> (Trump said that John McCain is no war hero because he was captured)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-57573981662718118812016-06-25T23:27:00.000-07:002016-06-25T23:36:02.906-07:00Trump's Tower of Frauds and another startup scammer preying on protocols.io<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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(Image: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lower_part_of_The_Trump_Building_in_New_York_City_IMG_1693.JPG" target="_blank">Entrance of The Trump Building</a>, Billy Hathorn, CC BY-SA 3.0)<br />
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It seems that every few months, a new startup scam comes up on our radar. It's always someone claiming that they will make it easy for you to get millions for your startup if you just pay them a little bit first. I have written <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2015/04/hey-startup-parasites-we-dont-have-time.html" target="_blank">before</a> about these pay-to-pitch schemes like the Keiretsu forum and have put together a <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2016/02/how-to-find-good-investors-and-avoid.html" target="_blank">guide to avoiding</a> the scammers and parasites.<br />
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Still, one more timer-waster, <a href="http://www.hanoverintlinc.com/" target="_blank">Hanover International</a>, managed to get fairly far, despite our experience and guard against these schemes. This was a group that was recommended to us by someone we trust, so we met with them. In the very first meeting, just to be certain I wouldn't be wasting my time, I told them that we don't participate in "pay-to-pitch" schemes and don't work with "introducers" who want a monthly fee for connecting to investors. I shared our above blog posts to nail in that point.<br />
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In response, I was assured that Hanover is legit and they don't do shady things like the terrible Keiretsu forum that charges $5,000-$10,000 for the honor of presenting to potential investors who won't invest in your startup. I searched for any scam reports on Hanover International, but unlike the countless hits for Keiretsu, found none. So, I went forward and had three different calls with a bunch of people from Hanover, including its founder Jim Hock. Jim stressed repeatedly that VCs are bloodsuckers who just want to enrich themselves, in contrast to Wall Street banks that invest for the good of the startup.<br />
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The line about Wall Street versus VCs sounded like total bullshit to me, and I wasn't too surprised when the product of our conversations was a proposal from Hanover to work with us towards getting a round from investment bankers, at the rate of $2,500/month plus equity. They required a minimum of 4 months of payments, which would be $10,000 - in fact twice as much as what the Keiretsu scammers tried to charge us. That's $10,000 of cash plus equity in the company for some preparatory work and introductions. Steep, especially considering that I reiterated multiple times prior to their proposal that under no circumstances would we pay any retainers or upfront cash.<br />
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I went back to Googling of Hanover International for complaints, and it caught my eye that searching for their "40 Wall Street" address brought me to SEC's, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/investor/oiepauselist.htm" target="_blank">Public Alert: Unregistered Soliciting Entities (List of Unregistered Soliciting Entities That Have Been the Subject of Investor Complaints)</a>. Hanover itself wasn't on this list of fake companies, but their address was by far the most over-represented address on this list of fakes. This is the Trump Building, profiled by Bloomberg a few days ago as "<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-trump-40-wall-street/" target="_blank">Inside Trump’s Most Valuable Tower: Felons, Dictators and Girl Scouts</a>" with this juicy segment:<br />
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<i>“Iconic and wonderful,” Donald J. Trump said at a South Carolina town hall event last year, praising the 86-year-old Art Deco tower as one of his great possessions. The presumptive Republican presidential nominee also told fans in Maine that critics who mock his failed companies should focus instead on the Manhattan skyscraper. “They don’t want to talk about 40 Wall Street,” he said. </i></blockquote>
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<i>But the 72-story building has housed frauds, thieves, boiler rooms and penny-stock schemers since Trump took it over in 1995 in what may be the best deal of his career. No single property in his portfolio is more valuable than 40 Wall St., according to a Bloomberg valuation of his assets last year. And no U.S. address has been home to more of the unregistered brokerages that investors complain about, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission’s current public alert list.</i></blockquote>
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Since my mother lives in New York, I asked her to stop by 40 Wall Street and check for Hanover. Yep, no sign of the company or Jim Hock anywhere in that building. I called Jim, confronted him, and he feebly attempted to come up with excuses. I then told him to stay away from us and wrote an angry e-mail to their entire group. The comical full exchange is below.<br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: x-small; line-height: normal;">From: </span><b class="gmail_sendername" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; widows: 1;">Lenny Teytelman</b><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: x-small; line-height: normal;"> </span><span dir="ltr" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: x-small; line-height: normal;"><lenny@protocols.io></span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: x-small; line-height: normal;">Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:13 AM</span><br />
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As I just expressed to Jim over the phone, we would like to disengage.</div>
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Frankly, I am surprised that it took this long with the phone calls and emails, wasting everyone's time. I was crystal clear in my first meeting with Michael on February 26 that we do not participate in pay-to-pitch arrangements. At the first meeting, I shared these blog posts with Michael:</div>
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Two weeks ago, over the phone, I was explicit that we would not be paying a retainer fee. Still, you sent the proposal asking to be paid thousands of dollars per month. In fact, we would pay you under that more than the $4,500 that Keiretsu asked to pitch their investors.</div>
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I am disappointed, to say the least.</div>
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P.S. It also doesn't help that you loudly list 40 Wall Street as the corporate address for Hanover, but there is no record of Jim Hock or the company in the Trump building. When I asked you Jim about this, you said you are sharing on the 18th floor, but you list 28th at <a href="http://nibanet.org/about/niba-board-of-directors" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">NIBA</a>. All combined, none of this looks good.</div>
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<span style="font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal;">From: </span><b class="gmail_sendername" style="font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal;">Jerry Lindberg</b><span style="font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal;">Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:35 PM</span><br />
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Dear Lenny,<u></u><u></u></div>
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We are in receipt of your most recent email and we must disagree with your declarations. We, as <span class="il">Hanover</span> International provide advisory services including the preparation of marketing materials, PowerPoint presentations, and executive summary and enhanced business plan preparation and investor relations. In addition we position a company to be introduced to applicable investment banking houses based upon industry and capital requirements.<u></u><u></u></div>
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We had decided after your phone call of stating that you could not pay our fees that we would go ahead on good faith and introduce you to selected investment banking houses. We, as a team have spent hours going through that process on your behalf and you have decided not to avail yourself of that process. <u></u><u></u></div>
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The proposal we sent to you was for <b>discussion purposes only</b>. It was not a contract. In an email on March 30 you replied that it “looks good” in regards to document. Further, in that same email you suggested an alternative to our monthly fee. You asked would we consider receiving greater equity in a described protocol for our services.<u></u><u></u></div>
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We told you and re-iterated on conference calls with the members of the <span class="il">Hanover</span> team that we do not work for “success fees” or commissions for capital raises as they are not in compliance with securities rules and regulations.<u></u><u></u></div>
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We ceased utilization of “executive offices” in New York at 40 Wall Street due to the fact that we were offered a better deal at 44 Wall Street and are moving there. The reason for the delay of this moving process is that Jim Hock has been dealing with serious medical issues and could not travel.<u></u><u></u></div>
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Finally, any claims about us that may be misinformed or irresponsible is both wrong and harmful and we will protect our reputation accordingly.<u></u><u></u></div>
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We sincerely wish you the best of luck and future success in all of your endeavors.<u></u><u></u></div>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Lenny Teytelman</b><br />
Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:58 PM<br />
Subject: Re: Response to your Parting Ways<br />
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Thank you for the reply. You did not say or re-iterate on our calls that you are not a <a href="http://www.hawleytroxell.com/2010/03/paying-unregistered-finders-to-raise-capital-for-your-company-is-generally-illegal/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">registered dealer/broker</a>. I assume that is what you mean by saying that you "cannot do success fees".</div>
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I do not see how I could have been more clear to Michael and everyone else that we would not be paying a retainer. That is why I sent the blog posts. That is why I repeated multiple times via phone and email that we would not pay upfront. That is a terrible deal for startups and in most cases is a border-line scam. </div>
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If you think that what you are doing is fine, then so is the Keiretsu operation. </div>
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You tell me you "ceased" utilization, but Jim Hock told me this morning that you are there, just under a different name.</div>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-80787516285656986172016-03-24T11:32:00.000-07:002016-03-24T11:32:05.471-07:00No media. No liberal bias. Just TRUMP.I have family members who are big supporters of Trump. Whenever we discuss his outrageous and hateful ideas, I am told, it's just the media and liberal spin on the moderate and reasonable ideas of Trump. Most recent e-mail exchange:<br />
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<i><b>Me</b>:</i> <i>I have no reason to think he [Trump] is an anti-Semite. But the stuff he says on racial issues is deeply revolting. Just because it's about Muslims and Mexicans doesn't mean I am okay with it. I am not listening to any pundits. I am listening to Trump and that's the part that makes me deeply uncomfortable. Most of the vitriol is coming directly from him. And that's what my question is about...</i></blockquote>
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<i><b>Relative</b>: Give me quotes directly from Trump. Make sure to include all the sentences before and after the offending words, then read them twice, and then we can discuss each one. You will be pressed to find anything to support what you just said. You'll see - it's truly amazing what the media does even to smart people. </i></blockquote>
So as a resource for those whose family and friends are Trump supporters, I am starting the following list. Not quotes from newspaper articles. No bias/spin/out-of-context/clipped quotes. Just a simple list of things Trump says himself on his Tweeter account.<br />
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<b>On science:
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To all haters and losers: I am NOT anti-vaccine, but I am against shooting massive doses into tiny children. Spread shots out over time.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449836320572321792">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/418542137899491328">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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It's really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/656100109386674176">October 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/265895292191248385">November 6, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'm not against vaccinations for your children, I'm against them in 1 massive dose.Spread them out over a period of time & autism will drop!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/507546307620528129">September 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Remember, new "environment friendly" lightbulbs can cause cancer. Be careful-- the idiots who came up with this stuff don't care.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/258593090107998208">October 17, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<b>On Putin:</b><br />
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What do you think Obama will do when Putin seizes Alaska?</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/440812306164117504">March 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/347191326112112640">June 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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On Obama:</b><br />
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Let's take a closer look at that birth certificate. <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama">@BarackObama</a> was described in 2003 as being "born in Kenya." <a href="http://t.co/vfqJesJL">http://t.co/vfqJesJL</a></div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/203568571148800001">May 18, 2012</a></blockquote>
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An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama">@BarackObama</a>'s birth certificate is a fraud.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/232572505238433794">August 6, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Media silent when <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama">@BarackObama</a> called <a href="https://twitter.com/MittRomney">@MittRomney</a> a murderer & felon. Mitt mentions 'birth certificate' and they go nuts. Double standard!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/240442968379629569">August 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/411247268763676673">December 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Obama is, without question, the WORST EVER president. I predict he will now do something really bad and totally stupid to show manhood!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474719268819308544">June 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Always remember, I was the one who got Obama to release his birth certificate, or whatever that was! Hilary couldn't, McCain couldn't.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/483319727343665152">June 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/futureicon">@futureicon</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/pinksugar61">@pinksugar61</a> Obama also fabricated his own birth certificate after being pressured to produce one by <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a>"</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/536653754029047808">November 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Our President is a great embarrassment to the U.S. How could anybody be so dumb or know so little as to make the very stupid 5 for 1 swap?</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474023549544325120">June 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Obama, stop the flights to and from West Africa NOW - before it is too late! Can't you see what's happening? Can you be that thick (stupid)?</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/520062102875439105">October 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I don't know if President Obama isn't stopping the flights from Ebola torn West Africa because he is stubborn, stupid, or just doesn't care!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/521288438931546112">October 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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On "losers":
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Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/516382177798680576">September 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I would like to wish everyone, including all haters and losers (of which, sadly, there are many) a truly happy and enjoyable Memorial Day!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/602571404861636608">May 24, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I wish everyone, including the haters and losers, a very happy Easter!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/584647721883148288">April 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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To EVERYONE, including all haters and losers, HAPPY NEW YEAR. Work hard, be smart and always remember, WINNING TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/550399835682390016">December 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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All the haters and losers must admit that, unlike others, I never attacked dopey Jon Stewart for his phony last name. Would never do that!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/604838076586856448">May 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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While Jon Stewart is a joke, not very bright and totally overrated, some losers and haters will miss him and his dumb clown humor. Too bad!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/604826775030509568">May 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Why do we always try to destroy our true champions and winners in this country, while at the same time leaving the losers alone? STUPID!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/597910903007371265">May 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I’m turning down millions of dollars of campaign contributions—feel totally stupid doing so, but hope it is appreciated by the voters.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/638805379745456128">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<b>On Muslims and immigrants:
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/bat211">@bat211</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/capetown58">@capetown58</a> Obama wanted Mubarak out and his pals from Muslim brotherhood in. As usual what he does is a disaster</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/369169282778689536">August 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/RealEstateMOKS">@RealEstateMOKS</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a> Build the wall! Everywhere I go, immigrants have our jobs! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MakeAmericaGreatAgain?src=hash">#MakeAmericaGreatAgain</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/voteDonaldTrump?src=hash">#voteDonaldTrump</a>"</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/637059060148404224">August 28, 2015</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/VeneziaMatthew">@VeneziaMatthew</a>: Trump is the only real candidate. He is only saying what we all know. Much crime comes from illegal immigrants. Fact!"</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/617461697754853376">July 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Our government now imports illegal immigrants and deadly diseases. Our leaders are inept.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/496640747379388416">August 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thx to all the people who called to say they are cutting their <a href="https://twitter.com/Macys">@Macys</a> credit card as a protest against illegal immigrants pouring into US</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/618105803917131776">July 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/674934005725331456">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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"@KEEMSTARx: Mexican criminals coming into USA? YES Did Trump say we need to stop them? YES Did he say Mexicans are good? YES Racism? NO"</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/615476204624322560">June 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<b>On, uhm, sorry, can't classify this insanity.
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The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA infected people back. People that go to far away places to help out are great-but must suffer the consequences!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/495379061972410369">August 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke.</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/257552283850653696">October 14, 2012</a></blockquote>
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I refuse to call Megyn Kelly a bimbo, because that would not be politically correct. Instead I will only call her a lightweight reporter!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/692312112115380224">January 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Re Megyn Kelly quote: "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" (NOSE). Just got on w/thought</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/629997060830425088">August 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/Redcoat_Overkil">@Redcoat_Overkil</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realdonaldtrump</a> But his hair is real!" So is mine, asshole!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/336157392070901762">May 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/johnnyhabit">@johnnyhabit</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a> why the fuck do I even follow you? Because you're addicted to genius, asshole!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/440331541580099584">March 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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.<a href="https://twitter.com/cher">@Cher</a> attacked <a href="https://twitter.com/MittRomney">@MittRomney</a>. She is an average talent who is out of touch with reality. Like <a href="https://twitter.com/Rosie">@Rosie</a> O'Donnell, a total loser!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/200603697435246592">May 10, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Rosie O'Donnell just said she felt "shame" at being fat-not politically correct! She killed Star Jones for weight loss surgery, just had it!</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/464923451984461824">May 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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"<a href="https://twitter.com/Don_Vito_08">@Don_Vito_08</a>: "A picture is worth a thousand words" <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LyingTed?src=hash">#LyingTed</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeverCruz?src=hash">#NeverCruz</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MELANIATRUMP">@MELANIATRUMP</a> <a href="https://t.co/5bvVEwMVF8">pic.twitter.com/5bvVEwMVF8</a>"</div>
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/712850174838771712">March 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-52024823794005245762016-03-08T10:08:00.000-08:002016-03-08T10:08:16.797-08:00U.S. is not 1930 Germany. Trump may not be Hitler. But what if he is?I don't like paranoia and baseless frenzy. I hate it when people throw around "Nazi" and "Hitler" comparisons on social media, as people constantly love to do. And everyone who was around in 2008 and 2012 and witnessed the United States electing Barack Obama, both times, should realize that the U.S. today is not where Germany was in 1930. The candidates for the Democratic nominee just discussed racial blindspots and white privilege in the debate on Sunday. And both Hilary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are more likely to be elected than Trump. So, as Marco Rubio would say, let's dispel with the notion that the U.S. is Nazi Germany.<br />
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In fact, it seems that <a href="http://www.vox.com/2016/3/3/11155782/muslim-voters-trump" target="_blank">11% of Muslims support Trump</a>. I personally know Jews who are huge fans of Trump. Their reasoning is that Trump doesn't believe any of the vile stuff that he spews. It's just a tactic to get elected. But do we know what Hitler believed? Here's the first mention of Hitler in the NYT (hat tip <a href="https://twitter.com/fMRI_guy/status/707247918906904577" target="_blank">Jens Foell</a>):<br />
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Out of curiosity, I found the first NYT reference to Adolf Hitler. Nov. 21, 1922. Amazing last three paragraphs. <a href="https://t.co/VhBnlSsfNm">pic.twitter.com/VhBnlSsfNm</a></div>
— Jon Ostrower (@jonostrower) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/705171149022433280">March 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
Yes, Trump may just be a cunning opportunist. He may get elected and turn out to be the most open and socially liberal politician in the history of our country. Sure, non-zero chance of that. But we have absolutely no evidence to suggest that this is the case. And what if we elect him and it turns out we are wrong? What is the price of that?<br />
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I may be an overly-cautious Jew. Having relatives who died in the Holocaust surely plays into my perspective on politics. But white supremacists aside, who is comfortable with the stuff below?<br />
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1. Trump seems <a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468455028/trump-wont-condemn-kkk-says-he-knows-nothing-about-white-supremacists" target="_blank">happy to be endorsed</a> by the KKK.<br />
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2. Racial profiling of entire ethnic and religious groups is Trump's forte. According to Trump, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/" target="_blank">Mexicans are rapists</a> and <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/07/donald-trump-ban-all-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting" target="_blank">all Muslims should be banned</a> from entering the U.S.<br />
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3. Trump suggested instituting a <a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-says-he-would-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716" target="_blank">national identification system for tracking Muslims</a> - eerily <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/obeidallah-trump-anti-muslim/" target="_blank">reminiscent of the Judenstern</a> (the Jewish star of Nazi Europe).<br />
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4. Trump may be <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8" target="_blank">a fan of Hitler's speeches</a>.<br />
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5. Given all of the above, the <a href="https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/holocaust-survivor-horrified-by-trumps-heil-hitler-salute-hes-asking-them-to-swear-allegiance-to-him/" target="_blank">Hitler-like salutes at Trump's rallies</a> give me chills.<br />
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6. It's not just comedians, media, and liberals who compare Trump to Hitler. Conservatives <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-glenn-beck_us_56dca533e4b0000de404ff80" target="_blank">Glen Beck</a> and <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/christine-todd-whitman-donald-trump-hitler/" target="_blank">Christine Todd Whitman</a> think so too. Yet, <a href="http://www.politico.com/trump-muslims-shutdown-hitler-comparison" target="_blank">Trump is not at all bothered</a> by the frequent comparisons of him to Hitler. <b>That should bother us all.</b>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04243142395384726052noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4211622996251937940.post-85826623027217979772016-02-22T10:48:00.001-08:002016-02-22T13:08:51.554-08:00How to find good investors and avoid the startup sharks (nope VCs aren't the sharks)<span style="font-family: inherit;">After four years as a co-founder of <a href="http://protocols.io/">protocols.io</a>, I can confirm that the startup ocean is infested with sharks. However, in our experience, none of these sharks are actual venture capitalists. They are not investors but parasites and scammers posing as investors or promising to help you connect with real VCs in exchange for cash/equity.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Here's a good example of someone who has wasted months of our time. Please do <a href="https://www.biv.com/article/2015/4/alleged-fraud-artist-accused-bilking-young-investo/" target="_blank">read</a> about a classic scam artist John Spangenberg.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Spangenberg prefers to go by "Johnny" and posed as an impact investor with an active fund interested in investing in protocols.io. He said exactly what we wanted to hear, and from November 2014 through the end of February 2015, asked for numerous meetings and documents as part of due diligence. It took these three months for us to realize that he was wasting our time and to ask him to never contact us again (full exchange below). That was two months before the above article. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I have been planning for a year now to write this simple guide for finding good investors. After bumping into the expose of Johnny today, I can't delay it any more.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The truth is that there is no formula for matching startups and investors. No matter how good your company, you have to talk to many to find the right fit. But from the scores of VCs I have spoken to, there is a common theme to the good ones:</span></div>
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<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">Whether or not they invest, you typically learn from the conversations with them and can use the feedback to improve your presentation and company (like getting negative review on an academic paper, it's important to use the rejection/criticism to improve your paper rather than to lash out at the reviewers).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">They quickly let you know what they are looking for, whether you fit, and if your startup is too early, what needs to happen before they will invest. (Quickly is usually a matter of 1-4 weeks.)</span></li>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">On the flip side, below is a list of characters and organizations to avoid like the plague. Like all first-time founders, we have lost precious days on these parasites, and I detail the below to hopefully save some others for wasting just as much.</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Introducers</b>. These are folks who promise to connect you to VCs in exchange for equity, a retainer, and often a percentage of your raised round. <b>RUN RUN RUN </b>from them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">Investors who are meeting with you just because they invested in a competing startup and want insider information.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">Pseudo-investors who do not have actual cash or an active fund (see more on Johnny below).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">Investors who won't quickly tell you "yes/no" but are dragging you through making charts and documents for them that are entirely irrelevant for your stage of the company (for example, financial projections and time-to-profit graphs before you have started building your product).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;">Scam accelerators (careful here - there are some <a href="http://anothersb.blogspot.com/2015/01/why-accelerator-can-save-you.html" target="_blank">very good accelerators</a> and a sea of shitty ones.)</span></li>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">We have been approached and distracted by a few in each of the categories above. Because of a good bullshit detector, we have never lost any equity or cash to these leeches. But we did lose a lot of time. Time, to a startup, is as valuable as cash - guard this precious resource and avoid the parasites.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b>Founders and investors, please share your tips on how to find the good ones and avoid the fraudsters. Please comment below (or on <a href="https://twitter.com/lteytelman/status/701857356632576002" target="_blank">this Twitter thread</a>, and I will add the advice to the post).</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Thank you for taking the time to connect with Irina today. I hope that you now have enough information to decide whether or not you want to include protocols.io in the tentative list of companies for the fund that you are raising. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I hope that once you raise the fund, we can reconnect, update you on protocols.io's progress, and help you make the final decision on whether or not protocols.io is the right fit for your fund.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I also hope you are not offended by the bluntness of this e-mail. It is just that startups can ill-afford tentative conversations with investors who do not at the moment have an active fund and are in a position to to make the yes/no call. Our board and advisors have repeatedly cautioned us not to get distracted by potential VCs who are interested in protocols.io but are not able to make the funding call at the moment. I tried to communicate as much to you, but I must have not done a good job. I am sorry about that.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">P.S. I also want to share my perspective on cash-flow projections. I know they are a normal part of business school, but they are inappropriate for young startups. We have raised $800K in the last 2.5 years. Neither the angels nor the VC group that invested asked for cash-flow. Only one potential angel asked us for 5-year spreadsheets, and not surprisingly, he bailed and chose not to invest at the last second. Below is the message I sent to him back in 2012.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">We enjoyed our phone conversation and really appreciate your advice. Attached is a revised 5-year projection model. Since we cannot realistically estimate the risk of our company, we applied discount rates typically used by VCs when valuing early stage startups. Please note that we are not at the stage to be valued by VCs yet.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">While we agree that this is a good exercise, we want to caution against over-interpreting the numbers. Take everything in these models with a HUGE grain of salt. There are just too many assumptions. We are estimating total number of protocols, job postings, ads sales, our expenses, and on and on. These are important and solid exercises. They show what the revenue model is and why we are likely to strike gold. But they are too speculative to take seriously now.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Of course, it is critical to have a good business model. But our budget to get there and the actual revenue are a moot point. For classic manufacturing and service startups, such calculations are essential and realistic. For tech. startups, they are mostly irrelevant. That's because the most likely scenario is that a year or two from now, once we have the repository, user base, and traffic, we will be bought by Nature Publishing Group, or Merck, or ResearchGate, or Google without getting a single dollar of revenue.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">It may sound delusional, but we would argue that for an angel investor, that is essentially the only scenario that matters. Most tech. startups fail. The return comes from a 10-15% of the ones that succeed, but those that succeed, do so wildly. Angel investors make 75% of their profits from the 7% of companies that hit the ball out of the park. The goal of the angel investor is to invest in the one company out of many that will give a 10-30x return. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Can we guarantee success? Of course not! If we could, we wouldn't be talking to investors. Angel investors take a huge risk, but they do so because of the insane possible return. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Obviously, we think we have a good shot at this. Hence the initial seed funding of $100K from us. Hence Alexei quitting his lucrative job and plunging in full time. We know that there is risk and we are willing to bet on this company. We are the main angel investors here, in addition to being the founders.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Dear Lenny - your friends are absolutely right. Both investor and investee as principal and agent need to engage in a constant due diligence. Trust is not a given but something that has to be earned over time, sometimes through tribes and tribulations. Working together engine and gasoline in an symbiotic relationship has to be compelling for both sides of the transaction. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Will soon provide all potential impact investees at sky deck with an overview of our Stanford-Berkeley incubator impact funds, likely structured as a $50m public mutual funds and traded on the stock markets. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Meanwhile all the best in elevating protocol.sio into the next growth level, expectantly profitable growth. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">As to money questions, I respectfully disagree with your (casuistic) and somewhat arrogantly diagnosis. Finance is the semantics of business. Value is defined by McKinsey as the future net inflow of cash. The 2000 internet bubble showed that eyeballs can never substitute coldhearted cash so that inspecting financial projection has become a legitimate part of any proper due diligence. I'm sure you will get used to it if and when you mature your interesting business. </span></div>
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<span class="undefined"><span style="color: #888888; font-family: inherit;">From: <b class="undefined">Lenny Teytelman</b><br />Date: Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:22 PM<br />To: Johnny </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I agree that a business model which is "let's get users" is often a bad approach to a startup. As you know, we are not in that group. It is critical for a startup to have a solid business model and to take steps towards validating it and attaining revenue.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Where we disagree is the value of cash-flow projections. They are indispensable for larger and more mature companies. I asked all of our advisors and and some investors on the appropriate way to handle your request for the projections. That is because, as a scientist, I fear they are misleading for a young startup. Here is a quote from a VC at O'Reilly's OATV fund in response to my question about projections for seed-stage startups:</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Thank you for your clarification, Lenny. My view as an investment banker (that is perhaps contrarian to other advisors) is that long-run cash flow projections should play a role at <i>every</i> stage in the firm's cycle, for the sake of balanced capital project decision making. There is merit in the discipline to identify the monetization model and the underlying assumptions on capex, opex and sources of income and their impact on free cash flow.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">But obviously operational and demand-side non-financial metrics in most cases outweigh financial metrics in valuing business at the seed stage. And...And: I welcome an all-inclusive approach with respect for the nature of each particular stage for balanced decision making.</span></div>
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<span class="HOEnZb"><span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">For your information - have a good weekend</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span class="undefined"><span style="color: #888888; font-family: inherit;">From: <b class="undefined">Lenny Teytelman</b><br />Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM<br />To: John Spangenberg [and others]</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span class="undefined"><span style="color: #888888; font-family: inherit;">From: <b class="undefined">John Spangenberg</b><br />Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:44 PM<br />To: Lenny Teytelman </span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Thought you're intested in animal welfare, Lenny.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span class="undefined"><span style="color: #888888; font-family: inherit;">From: <b class="undefined">Lenny Teytelman</b><br />Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:22 PM<br />To: John Spangenberg</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Of course, animals have nothing to do with this. I am just extremely disappointed in our interactions. The evening I met you, you conveyed that you are an impact investor, with a fund, and five companies in which you have already invested. It took way too much time to discover that you are only preparing to raise a fund, which may or may not happen.</span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">We all feel at protocols.io that we have invested a lot of time into our communication. Time that is in critically short supply. To be honest, we feel used.</span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: "arial";"><span class="undefined"><span style="color: #888888; font-family: inherit;">From: <b class="undefined">John Spangenberg</b><br />Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:50 PM<br />To: Lenny Teytelman </span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Dear Lenny - Why did it take so long for you to become straightforward? </span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">You seem to be a bright individual and leading a promising company, but I am developing personal doubts due to what I believe to be character flaws. I have gradually learnt to know you as impulsive, unpredictable, inpatient, even inflammatory at some times; risking to destroy critical relationships. Those are frankly not the best qualities for creating long-run shareholder's value in a balanced fashion. I am convinced however that as time goes by, you will grow into more seasoned leadership without compromising intelligence and energy - just my 2 cents.</span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">You complain about wasting time. Investing is a two-way street. It seems the two of us invested precious time in exploring synergies. Advisory delivered by me during our discovery was meanwhile mostly appreciated by you, provided you meant what you were saying in earlier emails. </span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">So far, this has served us well. We have accepted some and rejected others as investors. No regrets at this point. However, never before have I been disrespectful; whenever saying "no thank you," I have done so politely and without destroying any relationships. And never before have I been as angered by an investor. </span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Because I am very transparent and upfront, I crave the same in return. Usually, that is what I get from investors. Yet, in this instance, it seems that you misrepresented your position for a long time, while having complete honesty from us. </span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I wish you and your fund luck, but please do remove protocols.io from consideration for your portfolio. </span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #888888;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">All the best,</span></span></div>
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